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Post by Supertramp78 on May 4, 2011 14:13:30 GMT -5
"So what would not releasing them prevent?"
Additional wackos.
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Post by Fingerplucked on May 4, 2011 14:26:25 GMT -5
I turned on the news this morning while eating a bowl of flakes. CNN was debating whether to release the photo, so I switched to Fox where they were doing the same so I switched to MSNBC who was no better.
I'm glad it's decided and I like the answer. Now maybe we can get back to important stuff, like who the R's will run as president.
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Post by Chesapeake on May 4, 2011 14:35:02 GMT -5
Just watched some of today's White House press conference wherein various newsies tortured press secretary Jay Carney about why they decided not to release the photos. More evidence that enhanced interrogation techniques don't get you anywhere.
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Post by Fingerplucked on May 4, 2011 14:36:01 GMT -5
;D
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Post by patrick on May 4, 2011 15:01:20 GMT -5
"We don't trot this stuff out as trophies," Obama told CBS's Scott Pelley, in an interview to be aired on "60 Minutes" this Sunday. "We don't need to spike the football. Given the graphic nature of the photo, it would create national security risk."
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Post by billhammond on May 4, 2011 15:04:02 GMT -5
Meanwhile, sigh, in the PRIVATE sector:
By BRIAN CRECENTE • Kotaku
On Sunday night, a team of Navy SEALs killed Osama bin Laden. If all goes as planned, you will be able to reenact that scene in a video game this weekend. “Kuma War: Episode 107 — The Death of Osama Bin Laden” is planned for a Saturday release, according to Keith Halper, the CEO of Kuma Games.
Kuma Games (www.kumawar.com) is the company behind turning John Kerry’s Silver Star mission and the capture of Saddam Hussein into playable video games. It decided this week to return to the mostly defunct series to create this episode.
“I looked back at 106 episodes of ‘Kuma War’ and understood it was a story without an end, and so it was a matter of personal decision between myself and the development and writing staff to say we can’t close the door on ‘Kuma War 2’ until we’ve told this absolutely critical last story,” Halper said.
In “Kuma War,” players take control of the soldiers who fought through some of modern history’s most publicized engagements. The free game plays like most modern-day shooters, such as “Call of Duty,” with players controlling the movements of a soldier and where and when he fires.
The game even created a past “episode” about Bin Laden, examining the Battle of Tora Bora in December 2001. “Kuma War” features more than 120 of these episodes, each based on information pulled from news accounts, military experts and Department of Defense records. The missions often include briefings by people who participated in the events. Halper has likened what his company is doing to the work of news organizations.
“Kuma War” isn’t the only game that includes a Bin Laden appearance.
Newsgrounds (www.newgrounds.com), popular home to free Flash games, often features games created by budding developers looking to make a name. One of the top games on the site hours after news of Bin Laden’s death was “Mujahedin.” In it, players control a suicide bomber who is targeting a U.S. Army base. The work of playable satire features a cartoon Bin Laden who offers to become a drinking buddy with players if they succeed.
On Monday, iPhone game developer Dedalord Games released an update to its “Falling Fred” that allows players to control a perpetually plummeting “Ogama Ben Ladder” as you try to avoid dangerous objects — or hit them. The rag-doll Bin Laden bruises, loses limbs and bleeds as he hits objects during the fall, until he succumbs to his injuries.
Ian Bogost, professor of digital media at Georgia Tech and co-author of “Newsgames: Journalism at Play,” calls these games “quickly created release valves that capitalize on this event for traffic or attention.”
The Bin Laden games also could also give people a “sense of false closure,” he added.
“‘See, Osama is dead. The war on terror is over. See, I killed him myself on my computer.’ Whether that’s true or not, it doesn’t matter,” he said.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:22:44 GMT -5
Like Doug said, the pictures WILL be released, by leak if not formally. So, maybe just let them leak, and act like we are disappointed, or something.
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Post by epaul on May 4, 2011 15:25:46 GMT -5
Bill, do you have a link for ordering that game?
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Post by omaha on May 4, 2011 15:29:17 GMT -5
Any leaked picture should be assumed to be Photoshopped.
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Post by omaha on May 4, 2011 15:30:55 GMT -5
While I wish he had avoided the "spike the ball" analogy, I'm glad Obama made this decision.
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Post by billhammond on May 4, 2011 15:35:12 GMT -5
Bill, do you have a link for ordering that game?  |
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Post by John B on May 4, 2011 15:37:34 GMT -5
A no for me too. How long do you think it would take for it to show up on T-shirts, baseball caps and guitar headstocks? Screw the conspiracy crowd, don't let the looneys run the asylum. My latest headstock design idea:  |
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Post by paulschlimm on May 4, 2011 17:37:22 GMT -5
Might as well at this point. About the only damn things we haven't released so far is the operations order for the attack and the bios of the SEALs involved. I guess operational security gets trumped by slapping high fives and dancing on graves.
OK, I feel better.
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Post by Cornflake on May 4, 2011 18:00:26 GMT -5
"Might as well at this point. About the only damn things we haven't released so far is the operations order for the attack and the bios of the SEALs involved. I guess operational security gets trumped by slapping high fives and dancing on graves."
I've wondered about all the publicity. Today I was reading about the "massive intelligence haul" that was a side effect of the raid. All the people affiliated with al Qaeda were also reading about it, I assume. It struck me that, ideally, it would have been good to delay the news of the raid until we could follow up on the new intelligence and maybe snag some others. Second choice would have been to mention nothing about all the hard drives that were seized, or something along those lines.
But this is armchair speculation and there may be reasons why I'm wrong.
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Post by TKennedy on May 4, 2011 18:12:31 GMT -5
A no for me too. How long do you think it would take for it to show up on T-shirts, baseball caps and guitar headstocks? Screw the conspiracy crowd, don't let the looneys run the asylum. My latest headstock design idea: Is that a Foo bird dropping? |
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on May 4, 2011 19:28:17 GMT -5
It struck me that, ideally, it would have been good to delay the news of the raid until we could follow up on the new intelligence and maybe snag some others. Flake, I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that an armed attack in the middle of the night, complete with helicopters, explosions, screams and the compound on fire might have caught even the Pakistani's attention. Mike |
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Post by Cornflake on May 4, 2011 19:44:15 GMT -5
I understand, Mike, and that thought occurred to me as well. Maybe this was all thought through and rejected for such reasons.
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Post by Supertramp78 on May 4, 2011 19:59:09 GMT -5
One analyst said that when a mid level person gets nabbed, everyone above him knows what he might have on his PC. But when the head guy gets nabbed, none of his lower guys has any idea what he has.
Personally I hope they discover he had a huge stash of porn.
And a Facebook account.
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Post by epaul on May 4, 2011 20:01:17 GMT -5
I just heard the SEALs squad is going to be on Oprah next week.
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Post by epaul on May 4, 2011 20:01:59 GMT -5
Oh... well, maybe I didn't.
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