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Post by Village Idiot on Aug 16, 2014 11:56:11 GMT -5
Lots of things. The state of Iowa paid for over one hundred of us to meet in Des Moines, and we focused on this:  Doesn't make sense? It does when you consider Constructing Understandings of text:  And tie that into DLM Node Linkage Progression:  What does all of that look like compared to the whole? Well, the ELA.EE.RI.3.8 is here:  Our onus, they told us, is to bring this idea to others. Thank you for allowing me to begin that journey here. |
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Aug 16, 2014 12:01:38 GMT -5
OMG! I have I service on Weds. I'm not looking forward to it.
Mike
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Post by Village Idiot on Aug 16, 2014 12:02:38 GMT -5
And, Mike, I bet you'll get to learn about blood-borne pathogens!
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Aug 16, 2014 12:08:44 GMT -5
I learned nothing yesterday. I enjoyed it very much!
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Aug 16, 2014 12:10:01 GMT -5
You bet, VI. And won't that be special.
Mike
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Post by TKennedy on Aug 16, 2014 12:19:50 GMT -5
I learned first your pants THEN your shoes. It was a good day.
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Post by brucemacneill on Aug 16, 2014 13:00:34 GMT -5
I guess that's "Common Core" and now I know why teachers hate it.
Mr. Kennedy, the Navy taught us to wear bell-bottoms so we could take our pants off over our shoes. It had something to do with survival training. I believe the reason was that you might have to jump out a window and run like hell while not having time to put your pants back on so don't take your shoes off.
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Post by RickW on Aug 16, 2014 14:12:10 GMT -5
Wow. You got all that memorized, Todd?
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Post by Doug on Aug 16, 2014 14:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Aug 16, 2014 14:23:42 GMT -5
Education sure is complicated.
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Post by millring on Aug 16, 2014 14:34:38 GMT -5
Can you seriously describe what they were presenting?
Looks like yet another example of institutional academia finding ever more complex ways of describing the simple, re-naming it, and justifying their existence -- a justification only required because somewhere down the line it was determined that novel always trumps status quo. Science and applied science depends on testing and proving before utilizing. Education doesn't really care. The only testing it seems to require is that a hypothesis seem new enough to test on another unsuspecting generation of children.
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Post by drlj on Aug 16, 2014 14:57:10 GMT -5
Lots of things. The state of Iowa paid for over one hundred of us to meet in Des Moines, and we focused on this: Doesn't make sense? It does when you consider Constructing Understandings of text: And tie that into DLM Node Linkage Progression: What does all of that look like compared to the whole? Well, the ELA.EE.RI.3.8 is here: Our onus, they told us, is to bring this idea to others. Thank you for allowing me to begin that journey here. I am a retired teacher and, heh heh, you said onus! |
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Post by Doug on Aug 16, 2014 15:02:44 GMT -5
I am a retarded retired teacher also. And I don't give a anymore cause I don't have to mess with it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 16:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by RickW on Aug 16, 2014 16:28:33 GMT -5
Can you seriously describe what they were presenting? Looks like yet another example of institutional academia finding ever more complex ways of describing the simple, re-naming it, and justifying their existence -- a justification only required because somewhere down the line it was determined that novel always trumps status quo. Science and applied science depends on testing and proving before utilizing. Education doesn't really care. The only testing it seems to require is that a hypothesis seem new enough to test on another unsuspecting generation of children. I would say rather, in this example as in Paul's diagram, it's the attempt to apply the overly complex analysis tools used in large businesses to large organizations such as educational institutions, etc. in business, they use this stuff to justify whatever they like, as you can support just about any argument if your data is complicated enough. People make a living and move up the ladder based on crap like this, because it makes them look smart. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 17:01:40 GMT -5
That's why I'll never get ahead, Rick. My diagram for Iraq would look something like this:
2014 - - - - many years of letting them kill each other - - - 2030 reassess and decide "Nope." - - - - - 2050 "Everyone OK in there??- - - - - 2075 Maybe see if they need any help, assuming anyone is left.
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Post by dradtke on Aug 16, 2014 17:20:26 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, Todd. I always wondered what you did, and now I understand.
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Post by Cornflake on Aug 16, 2014 20:08:31 GMT -5
I had three school board meetings last week. During one, I felt like saying: turn off the *^%#@ PowerPoint. If there's something I needed to know to make decisions at this meeting, I assume it would have been expressed in clear English in the documents everyone can see before the meeting. If not, why not?
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Post by Village Idiot on Aug 16, 2014 20:50:52 GMT -5
Can you seriously describe what they were presenting? No. Looks like yet another example of institutional academia finding ever more complex ways of describing the simple, re-naming it, and justifying their existence -- a justification only required because somewhere down the line it was determined that novel always trumps status quo. Indeed. People make a living and move up the ladder based on crap like this, because it makes them look smart. Look smart to someone, at least. The education world is surprisingly top-heavy in administration. While some people enter eduction to climb an administrative ladder and they come up with mumbo-jumbo like this as states twist numbers around to make themselves look better than other states so they can get more or not lose funding, the real issue is that in the process they have lost sight of what education is all about. The statistics I'd like to see are the ones that show the number of skills special education students learn from kindergarten through 12th grade being used or applied five years after graduation. Students spend years learning life skills, and upon entering the real world they wind up in group homes where employees are hired because the mirror fogged up when they held it under their nose. Anyone with a special needs son or daughter knows about the disparity of services between schools and adult services, and the gap is very wide. It's not the fault of the ground troops working in post-secondary living, it's the fact that they are severely under-funded and under-trained. If we truly want to fix special education, let's start by giving it a purpose. Take a step back from highly qualified teachers (and telling people like to me explain crap to them), and step in to help the world of adult rehab so students can apply the skills they have aquired to become more productive members of society than many are being allowed to be. |
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Post by Dub on Aug 16, 2014 22:58:47 GMT -5
I think one of the ways those diagrams come about is that someone publishes a paper or a book after long years of study, research and practical application. The book has no pictures, just the verbiage needed to present the ideas to other practitioners. After a time, the ideas are accepted as meritorious and someone in industry wants to apply them. That's when some executive says he or she can't be bothered reading the book or paper and demands that the whole thing be reduced to a one page diagram that can be used to guide team meetings.
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