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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 16:16:06 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/health/ebola-us/index.htmlCDC: First diagnosed case of Ebola in the U.S.(CNN) -- A patient being treated at a Dallas, Texas, hospital is the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Wednesday. Several other Americans were diagnosed in West Africa and then brought to the United States for treatment. The CDC is expected to provide more details on the case in a press conference at 5:30 p.m.
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Post by millring on Sept 30, 2014 16:28:30 GMT -5
swell.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 30, 2014 16:44:10 GMT -5
Well, there's a shock.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 16:53:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 16:56:16 GMT -5
I'm going to go make my tin hat now.
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 30, 2014 17:08:21 GMT -5
Color me more than a bit skeptical about the ebola scare that we are being drummed into.
(Bill, please do not parse that sentence.)
I'm sure its a real thing (duh), and its certainly a nasty one. I just don't see it being able to spread in the US/Europe like it has in other places. Diseases like that require less advanced living conditions than are generally present here.
I hope this patient recovers, and I hope aid agencies are able to provide some needed help in Liberia and similar places.
But I'll save my worrying for something else.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 30, 2014 17:09:39 GMT -5
While we're at it, let's see what the good folks at the Westboro Baptist Church think about it. That should give us the pulse of the country. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 17:19:25 GMT -5
Agreed, Faux.
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Post by Chesapeake on Sept 30, 2014 17:20:58 GMT -5
As I understand it, the pernicious thing about this bug is its ~ 21-day incubation period. An individual can wander around unknowingly exposing others for 21 days, and each new victim can do the same, and pretty soon you have a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 17:22:08 GMT -5
Nah. Ask the Values Voters Summit pols. They have a more interesting spin-machine.
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Post by Lonnie on Sept 30, 2014 17:28:50 GMT -5
I thought I read in the article that the disease is not contagious until the symptoms present themselves...
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 30, 2014 17:38:40 GMT -5
I thought I read in the article that the disease is not contagious until the symptoms present themselves... I was just listening to the CDC press conference on this patient. Their Director was very clear on that point: The disease is not transmissible during the pre-symptomatic, incubation period, and even after symptoms occur, it is relatively difficult to transmit (direct body fluid transfer required). Of course, they could be lying and half of the country will be dead in six months and they are just trying to stave off the inevitable panic, but I kind of doubt that. And even if that's the case, still no point in worrying. |
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Post by Chesapeake on Sept 30, 2014 17:47:13 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm moving to St. Croix, just in case.
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Post by brucemacneill on Sept 30, 2014 18:22:45 GMT -5
Anyway, I'm moving to St. Croix, just in case. Ummm, I have relatives on St. Croix and you don't want to swap bodily fluids with them either. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 20:11:07 GMT -5
It won't spread anywhere near as easily here, our rituals for the dead are much different than those in Africa.
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Post by coachdoc on Sept 30, 2014 20:22:49 GMT -5
Read 'The Great Influenza', then tell me again not to worry.
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Post by RickW on Sept 30, 2014 20:24:29 GMT -5
Has to be direct body fluid exchange? I thought it was much worse than that. I read about this a long time ago, and the only reason it was felt that we had not had a truly massive epidemic was the spead at which it killed. Almost alway fatal, and really fast. You basically start to dissolve, bleed internally, and out every orifice. Surface of the organs like the tongue disappear. The fear was that a milder form would come.
In Africe, people are blaming the US. Apparenty you want to kill all Africans. Or something. Sounds like a business opportunity - you could sell lots of tinfoil there.
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Post by Doug on Sept 30, 2014 20:35:25 GMT -5
A few negitives
- it's a virus
- the virus it is today may not be the virus it is tomorrow
- the way it spreads may change
- it may develop some sort of super dormancy
All those are things that virus do.
Non virus negative is that nature deals with carrying capacity problems with BIG strokes sometimes more than 90% reductions.
The only one of those that people can deal with is "it's a virus". Take normal dangerous virus steps. The rest are a bunch of long shots. Maybe from 100s to one to millions to one long shots, just not something to worry about like meteor impact.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 30, 2014 20:38:27 GMT -5
Has to be direct body fluid exchange? I thought it was much worse than that. I read about this a long time ago, and the only reason it was felt that we had not had a truly massive epidemic was the spead at which it killed. Almost alway fatal, and really fast. You basically start to dissolve, bleed internally, and out every orifice. Surface of the organs like the tongue disappear. The fear was that a milder form would come. In Africe, people are blaming the US. Apparenty you want to kill all Africans. Or something. Sounds like a business opportunity - you could sell lots of tinfoil there. That's what I thought. I could have sworn somebody, maybe even here, saying that ebola could never get to the US since the passenger would never survive the flight. Guess that was wrong too. |
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Post by billhammond on Sept 30, 2014 20:44:05 GMT -5
I didn't get this, did anyone else?
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