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Post by millring on Oct 26, 2014 4:27:26 GMT -5
"Side-taking" isn't the nature of media bias.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 26, 2014 5:43:18 GMT -5
Sharyl Attkisson's new book is an interesting window into how media bias works during the Obama administration.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 26, 2014 11:08:23 GMT -5
This whole meme of people getting their views from the media without being able to think for themselves strikes me as divisive, derisive, and absolutely the worst kind of "research" available. It's an effect looking for a politically useful cause.
People by and large don't need the media to tell them what to think. Shit like this is only valuable to people who can't believe that there could be a sentient being with at least a room temperature IQ who could possibly not get the obviousness of their thinking. Ironically you can usually tell who those folks are because they can't rationally articulate any position and rely on a constant stream of references to media opinion pieces.
I don't have much use for news in general beyond entertainment value and sports scores. I've been around long enough to know a thing or two. I have no use for certain media that present questionable viewpoints using invalid logic, even if they are comedy and satire shows. So if I were to be polled, I'd obviously lean toward media outlets that agree with me.
But not because I've been hypnotized into believing what they're pedaling. That would be the "windshield wipers cause wet roads" school of cause and effect.
Which is a political staple in certain circles.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 19:16:41 GMT -5
As I see it, Fox have trouble keeping their craven lying, editorialising and fear-mongering idiocy separate from their straight news reporting. Really? Have you watched Shepard Smith's nightly news show every night for a month straight and compared it to, for example, Brian Williams on NBC? I think Smith's is the most fact-filled, non-biased nightly news show in the US. Do they even broadcast Fox News in the UK? Sheppard Smith is something of an exception. Megyn Kelly and others are presented as similarly newsy but lie and misinform regularly with politically partisan intent. The separation of fact and dishonest propaganda is not well indicated on fox news. I have seen a lot of fox news, not a month solid though. Conveniently most of their lies are broadcast and debunked worldwide on the web.
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Post by Doug on Oct 29, 2014 20:11:42 GMT -5
All of the news media including FOX are heavily left wing.
I'm slightly wrong about that they are all heavily totalitarian rather than freedom.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 29, 2014 20:36:01 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of fox news, not a month solid though. Conveniently most of their lies are broadcast and debunked worldwide on the web. And we all know what Abraham Lincoln said about the internet.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 29, 2014 20:58:51 GMT -5
Megyn Kelly and others are presented as similarly newsy [as Shepard Smith] That's simply not true. Kelly's show is not a hard news show and is not represented as such.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 29, 2014 21:00:42 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of fox news, not a month solid though. Conveniently most of their lies are broadcast and debunked worldwide on the web. And we all know what Abraham Lincoln said about the internet. No, no, no! That was Plato. Didn't you learn anything at skool? Or was it Mark Twain? I always get those old guys mixed up. Big mustaches, bedsheets, funny hats. They all looked weird in the Olden Daze. And talked funny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 21:03:52 GMT -5
"Kelly's show is not a hard news show and is not represented as such."
Yet she is anchoring fox news election coverage? That will not be news?
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 29, 2014 21:06:59 GMT -5
Goalposts are moving awfully quickly around here...
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 29, 2014 21:08:33 GMT -5
Seriously, every single network's election coverage includes a combination of their hard news people and their commentary people.
You'll find multiple, hard-left, highly-opinionated MSNBC folks on the NBC election coverage, for example.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 21:31:27 GMT -5
It is good that Kelly has retracted her 'lies as fact' Colorado voting fraud news report. Corrections and retractions are good. Sadly, less than frequent.
I will be watching/listening to the coverage mostly on ABC or BBC.
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