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Post by jdd2 on Nov 21, 2014 17:40:50 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/magazine/the-secret-life-of-passwords.html?_r=0Long, but interesting. The clickable graphics, too. Sometimes I use sentences that include numbers, then use the first/last letter of each word, and when the number(s) come by add a shift for them to get some symbols. Sometimes based on the romanization of japanese words in those sentences--e.g., using the word "tokubetsukenkyuu" (特別研究) in a sentence yields "tbkk" as part of a password. I've never used birthdates or addresses, which seem like they'd be too easy to guess.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 17:57:40 GMT -5
My passwords are so good and so obscure that even I forget them.
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 21, 2014 18:02:39 GMT -5
My passwords are so good and so obscure that even I forget have forgotten them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 18:05:37 GMT -5
My passwords are so good and so obscure that even I forget have forgotten them. thankyou Thank you. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 21, 2014 18:29:55 GMT -5
Similarly to JDD we used to recommend "Pass Phrases" with which you select a personal favorite phrase that you can remember, use the first letters of the words in the phrase, change case, replace some letters with maybe their position in the alphabet, if it's 1-9 maybe the shifted value of the number. Passwords are either guessed based upon a knowledge of you or can be cracked by programs that used to take a super-computer to run but can now be done on a fast PC. The longer it takes for a person or computer to figure out your password the more likely it is that they'll give up and look at someone else. The worst, meaning most difficult I ever broke was based upon The Lord of the Rings The Return of the King with modifications. Hackers shoot for the easy ones first. A lot of the viruses I worked with years ago contained a list of common admin names and passwords that were common. If you make it look like nonsense with numbers and special characters, the amateurs and most of the pros, if you're just a civilian, will look elsewhere rather than wasting time.
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Post by Doug on Nov 21, 2014 19:41:50 GMT -5
I use dead dogs and some numbers. I doubt that anyone can find the name of the dog I had in 1957, my oldest little sister would have been 4 and everyone else that might know is now dead. But the real trick is to have nothing anyone wants to steal.  |
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Post by jdd2 on Nov 22, 2014 7:30:34 GMT -5
Gosh, I was thinking maybe someone would admit to using the name of a tonewood, or a guitar (D-28), as a part of their password. If I had some reason to hack you people, that's where I would start, so keep that in mind. Many of your talents and former professions are public here, too, so keep that stuff out of your passwords..
Mtk!$chthact!
...comes from "My Taylor k14c happens to have a cedar top!" with some caps on the numbers to add symbols.
Mytak!$chatohaaceto! ...if you want something longer. The problem with this one is that is uses letter sequences partially common to English words.
Adding a few repeating symbols the the first would be better: )>)>)Mtk!$chthact! or Mtk!$chthact!>(>(>(
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Post by drlj on Nov 22, 2014 8:28:28 GMT -5
I forget my passwords all the time. I have them written down, which sort of defeats the idea of a password, but if I didn't, I would never have access to anything.
I try to make up totally crazy, you would have to be nuts to think of this passwords. If I told you what they were, that would be even crazier than writing them down.
My lips are sealed and my list is hidden.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 22, 2014 9:17:27 GMT -5
I use obscure dead surf heros, surf spot names that have some meaning to me, Hawaiian place names that no one would ever come up with, and for the really important stuff completely random numbers and characters. Which I can never remember. Pass words are a pain in the keister.
Speaking of pains, at work, the IT geniuses make us change our password for our work email every year. While this might make sense for district administrators who discuss secret budget stuff, or teachers who are talking to kids and parents about their personal lives, it is a burden on the 250 or so over 55, frequently computer illiterate, bus drivers, who only get emails from the district confirming the bus route the drivers already know they are on.
Mike
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Post by Marshall on Nov 22, 2014 9:57:57 GMT -5
I liked some of the "profiles" at the bottom of the article. "nollid draw" was pretty good.
I've got some fun inventive ways to come up with passwords. I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you. . . . , But i do store the myriad of passwords required of every daily activity in a Spreadsheet. The spreadsheet has an innocuous name; (it ain't passwords). And of course to open the spreadsheet ; you need a password. It did occur to me that if something occurred to me, like a bump on the head, and i forgot that password, I'd be lllloooosssstttt ! And one day when i hadn't been in the spreadsheet in a few weeks, I had a momentary lapse and couldn't remember if i had the latest password to the file. I panicked ! I tried some options of present and past passwords. It wasn't working. Then I decided to try to type carefully, that maybe i had the right password the first time and made a typo. Bingo, that got me in.
But it still gave me a scare. So I wrote the password to the master file on a post-it note and stuck it in a secret hiding place.
Now where did I put that thing?
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Post by Doug on Nov 22, 2014 10:08:42 GMT -5
Y'all have given me a new idea. I'm gonna write sticky notes with passwords on them and stick them around my monitor. Not the right passwords mind you, just some random passwords. By the time they get through trying all of them they'll never remember to try "password".
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Post by patrick on Nov 22, 2014 10:17:23 GMT -5
Has any one tried programs like KeePass?
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Post by Marshall on Nov 22, 2014 15:41:18 GMT -5
Y'all have given me a new idea. I'm gonna write sticky notes with passwords on them and stick them around my monitor. Not the right passwords mind you, just some random passwords. By the time they get through trying all of them they'll never remember to try "password". Try bunnyears; or ittybitty. |
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Post by Doug on Nov 22, 2014 16:00:07 GMT -5
Y'all have given me a new idea. I'm gonna write sticky notes with passwords on them and stick them around my monitor. Not the right passwords mind you, just some random passwords. By the time they get through trying all of them they'll never remember to try "password". Try bunnyears; or ittybitty. How did you guess?  |
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Post by RickW on Nov 22, 2014 16:11:23 GMT -5
I just picked up Norton's password keeper, Identify Safe. I have way too many. Truly random passwords end up defeating the purpose. as you have to write them down somewhere, and that location may not be safe. At work, people used to write them on pieces of paper and leave them under the glass on their desk. Security finally started making dire threats, and people smartened up.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 22, 2014 22:02:26 GMT -5
What happens when the hackers get into the password programs in the cloud?
Mike
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 22, 2014 22:19:26 GMT -5
I hate passwords. The stuff I do is so uninteresting that no one would care anyway. When it's time to change my work email every 90 days I just alter the old one slighty, and wind up waffing back and forth between three very similar passwords.
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Post by RickW on Nov 23, 2014 0:41:52 GMT -5
Not terribly good password systems, Todd. Most will prevent that. If there is no private info on any kids, then probably not an issue. If there is, I'd be very, very careful.
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Post by John B on Nov 23, 2014 11:05:32 GMT -5
I use Lastpass, recommended by the IT guy at work.
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