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Post by epaul on Nov 24, 2014 19:01:09 GMT -5
I don't know what they should do. The Grand Jury heard the evidence and it's their job to make the decision.
But, why on earth schedule the announcement for 8:00 PM? Why not 8:00 AM? Did they purposefully pick a time that could possibly lead to the most trouble, whether in anger or celebration? Supposedly there is concern over "crowd reaction". If so, why pick a time that is most suitable for a crowd reaction when you could pick a time that is likely to promote a more subdued reaction.
8:00 PM: Best potential for a large crowd in front of the courthouse and in the downtown area. Enough time for some "lubrication" to pass the wait. Nighttime with a lot of night to go.
8:00 AM: Early morning. Nice and sunny out (or, at least, daylight). Much smaller crowd in front of the courthouse and downtown area. No time to lubricate.
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 24, 2014 19:48:27 GMT -5
There waiting for the "Lets get ready to RUUUUUMMMMMBBBBLLLLLEEEEEEE" guy from the boxing matches to arrive in town.
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 24, 2014 19:57:02 GMT -5
One of the law-enforcement analysts on CNN opined that they know it's going to be no indictment or a low-level charge, and they are putting defensive measures into place. Somebody said the National Guard was moving to secure the building the prosecutor's office is in.
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 24, 2014 19:58:44 GMT -5
I think it would be a big mistake not to charge him. Even if he were ultimately proved innocent, there should be a public trial so the facts and testimony can be thoroughly weighed in the most transparent way possible.
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Post by Doug on Nov 24, 2014 20:56:24 GMT -5
I agree with Peake.
I think anytime a cop fires his gun (not at the range) he should face a jury.
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Post by epaul on Nov 24, 2014 22:46:09 GMT -5
So far, some black leaders are certainly being helpful in keeping the situation from becoming violent: [congressman Lacy Clay] "Even though the police murdered Michael Brown in cold blood and the crooked justice system refused to bring justice, stay peaceful". Yeah, that will work.
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 24, 2014 22:57:50 GMT -5
The split screen (Obama on one side telling us not to riot, Ferguson street scenes with tear gas flying and fires burning on the other) was iconic.
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Post by epaul on Nov 24, 2014 23:09:15 GMT -5
Obama was good, though. Admit it.
(but, yes, the split screen business during his talk was ironic, and, forgive me, funny.)
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Post by epaul on Nov 24, 2014 23:17:41 GMT -5
I agree with Peake. I think anytime a cop fires his gun (not at the range) he should face a jury. So, every time a cop fires his gun, he is put on paid administrative leave for the two years it would take to resolve his case in front of a jury? Which means hiring another cop to replace the one you are paying to await trial? Your plan would double the cost of maintaining a police force, which would mean raising taxes, which would eventually end up being paid entirely by the poor, as it is on the shoulders of the very poorest that all taxes eventually fall. Why do you hate the poor? |
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 24, 2014 23:43:07 GMT -5
Because they are easy targets?
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Post by Marshall on Nov 24, 2014 23:49:24 GMT -5
What irks me is every TV channel has total coverage of the same teargas canisters and cops circling around.
BUT NOBODY IS FORECASTING THE WEATHER ! ! !
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Post by fauxmaha on Nov 24, 2014 23:56:55 GMT -5
I the true spirit of solidarity, I just went next door and tipped over my neighbor's lawn furniture.
Stickin' it to the man, here.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 25, 2014 0:11:20 GMT -5
I think you should get a tattoo.
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Post by epaul on Nov 25, 2014 0:13:21 GMT -5
Hey, I just got the Chicago weather forecast....
you poor bastard. Time for longjohns and whiskey.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 25, 2014 0:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by godotwaits on Nov 25, 2014 9:57:01 GMT -5
Just 16 yrs old. Isn't that a little 'under age.' ? I the true spirit of solidarity, I just went next door and tipped over my neighbor's lawn furniture. Stickin' it to the man, here. I thought you could do that, like remote control, with the ah ahh whatchamadoodle.. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 25, 2014 10:10:09 GMT -5
Apparently a song about it already, seen on Facebook. Trouble is the premise is wrong.
Patterson Hood
I often walk around unable to figure out how to express what's really on my mind. I don't know any answers or solutions but at least I was able to articulate the question.
What It Means
He was running down the sidewalk when they shot him in the back
They shot him in the back and he fell dead in his tracks
They say they investigated but we all know how that goes
like in those old TV shows, the cops should remain heroes
and if you say it wasn't racial when they shot him in the back
well I guess that means that you ain't black,
it means that you ain't black
I mean I guess we have Obama
and you can choose where to eat
but you don't see too many white kids
lying bleeding on the street
It's some town in Missouri but it could be anywhere
it could be right here on Ruth Street,
in fact it has happened here
and it's happened where you're sitting,
wherever that might be
it happened last weekend and it will happen again next week
and when they turned him over,
they were surprised there was no gun
I mean he must have stolen something,
or else why would he have run
and they'll spin it for the anchors on the television screen
so we can shrug and let it happen
without asking what it means
What it means?
Then I guess there was protesting
and some looting in some stores
and someone was reminded
that they ain't called colored folks no more
I mean we try to be politically correct when we call names
but what's the point of post-racial
when the old prejudice remains
and that guy who killed that kid
down in Florida standing ground
is free to beat up on his girlfriend
and wave his brand new gun around
while some kid is dead and buried and laying in the ground
with a pocket full of Skittles
Astrophysics at our fingertips
and we're standing at the summit
some kid with a joystick lands a rocket on a comet
We're living in an age where limitations are forgotten
the outer edges can move and dazzle us but at the core there's something rotten
When we're running towards a darkness
of prejudice and fear
we trust science only as long as it
tells us what we want to hear
we want our truths all fair and balanced
as long as our notions lie within it
There's no sunlight in our assholes
and our heads are stuck up in it
and our heroes may be rapists
who watch us sleeping from our screens
but don't look to me for answers
cuz I don't know what it means
What it means?
Patterson Hood - November 2014 (kitchen table)
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Post by drlj on Nov 25, 2014 10:15:08 GMT -5
One of the craziest scenes I saw last night was a protester carrying an injured woman through the the police lines. She was loaded in a police car and they sped her to the hospital. One second rocks and bottles are flying at them and the next police are expected to help an injured citizen.
At least the rocks and bottles stopped flying towards the police for a few minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 12:41:55 GMT -5
One of the craziest scenes I saw last night was a protester carrying an injured woman through the the police lines. She was loaded in a police car and they sped her to the hospital. One second rocks and bottles are flying at them and the next police are expected to help an injured citizen. At least the rocks and bottles stopped flying towards the police for a few minutes. It is bizarre isn't it? They hate them until they need them. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 25, 2014 12:52:59 GMT -5
Not all the same "they," maybe.
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