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Post by RickW on Dec 20, 2014 21:14:36 GMT -5
So, they have this movie. It's a piece of crap. Ads look terrible. I won't say that they hacked themselves, but they look at what the Koreans handed to them as a blessing. They pull the movie, "We can't show this," then make it available in some other format, or release it in theatres. Every single American goes and sees it, just because.
What do you think?
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Dec 21, 2014 1:17:42 GMT -5
I'm in. Just to piss off the Little dictator.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 3:49:34 GMT -5
Given the lengths some studios go to generate buzz for their movies, I wouldn't put anything past anybody. That said, I'm no expert in international relations but even I could have told Sony that if you make a movie about assassinating North Korea's dictator, he is just crazy enough to try an exact some sort of revenge.
I'm also thinking that Sony execs REALLY must have written some damning things in their emails if they're willing to go to these lengths to keep them under wraps.
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Post by jdd2 on Dec 21, 2014 6:52:37 GMT -5
I don't think Sony is savvy enough to spoof such a DPRK hack (and fool the FBI/NSA along the way). They've had similar hack attacks in the past (successful attacks on other parts of the company), and they should have had their guard up.
Also, I think I've read that the hackers have said not to release it in any form.
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Post by Doug on Dec 21, 2014 7:13:40 GMT -5
Thing is that the hacked stuff will be released anyway.
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Post by jdd2 on Dec 21, 2014 7:21:24 GMT -5
Flip it around a little and imagine a hollywood movie with a similar farcical involvement of british royals, or Merkel, or a movie realizing that bomb in Mohammed's turban in the other thread. Or maybe something ridiculous about Mr. Xi, the present chinese leader--who wouldn't have had to hack anything, just make a comment about how china was going to dump all its US treasuries...
Sony thought Kim was, otoh, such a pariah that it wouldn't matter. Apparently they had been working on Sony for quite a while.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Dec 21, 2014 8:40:35 GMT -5
Flip it around a little and imagine a hollywood movie with a similar farcical involvement of british royals... You mean like "Monty Python and the Holy Grail?" Mike |
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Post by theevan on Dec 21, 2014 9:28:06 GMT -5
No.
But they will profit handsomely. You can't buy advertising that good.
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Post by Hobson on Dec 21, 2014 9:47:10 GMT -5
Maybe. It wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure that Sony execs are very happy that all of the news focus is on not being able to show the crappy movie rather than the bad internal controls that allowed personal data to be stolen.
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Post by millring on Dec 21, 2014 10:42:26 GMT -5
Foxes aren't crazy.
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Post by RickW on Dec 21, 2014 12:04:45 GMT -5
Well, yah. 'Xactly. (If I understand my usage of an old allegorical reference. Which I may or may not. But it sounded good at the time.) I don't really believe Sony hacked themselves. I do think they may have decided to go with the additional marketing. As to their lack of security, there are ways through everything, and in the end, you always have to trust people, because someone has to know the secret key. And no, I'm not being silly, I deal with this every day. You shut down everything you can, but there has to be a password, and people who know it. Is it possible that it's a legit hack, that someone figured out how to get past some incredibly secure software without figuring out those keys, or getting inside help. There could be more flaws there, like the heartbeat bugI guess. My feeling on it is that we would be seeing a lot more stuff being stolen from financial institutions and other businesses if it was possible. Maybe the North Koreans are that good. But greedy westerners would be, to me, a much bigger driving force to cracking all that security software. |
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Post by patrick on Dec 21, 2014 12:36:59 GMT -5
Sony claims that they didn't initiate the idea of pulling it from theaters, the theater chains did. I saw an interview this morning with one chain owner who said that if NK could hack Sony like that, his chain was going to be child's play. Everything he does is digital, right down to the digital projectors. The hackers could destroy him almost without effort.
So, at least for a short time, the hackers will win, then we will all get serious about IT security and life will go on.
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Post by fauxmaha on Dec 21, 2014 21:05:04 GMT -5
We indulge the campus idiocracy by allowing them to shout down lectures and cancel commencement speakers. No surprise that NK wants to get a cut of the action.
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Post by Village Idiot on Dec 21, 2014 22:46:30 GMT -5
Sony claims that they didn't initiate the idea of pulling it from theaters, the theater chains did. I've heard the same thing several times, and it sounds believable to me. Believable because it's so provable. |
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Post by aquaduct on Dec 22, 2014 7:21:31 GMT -5
We indulge the campus idiocracy by allowing them to shout down lectures and cancel commencement speakers. No surprise that NK wants to get a cut of the action. Word is that once we've played out the stupid national security implications of Hollywood actors not being allowed to show an idiotic movie, N. Korea will get in on the game of creating fictional news reports of rape on college campuses and then move on to executing cops in their patrol cars. All makes sense in the land of the hopelessly aggrieved. |
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Post by TKennedy on Dec 22, 2014 18:24:42 GMT -5
This is all cannon fodder for an even better movie than the one we may never see.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Dec 22, 2014 20:05:37 GMT -5
It appears that someone broke the N. Koreans Internet.
Mike
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Post by RickW on Dec 23, 2014 18:51:15 GMT -5
They are now going to release it in independent theatres. 190 have signed up. I feel prescient today. Of course, they could have just changed their minds naturally. But like any good citizen, I'll go with my conspiracy theory, It's much more satisfying.
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Post by Chesapeake on Dec 25, 2014 0:05:25 GMT -5
A friend of mine, sometime music journalist Michael Oberman, posted this tonight on Facebook:
I feel like I should see it because it's become a historical/cultural icon, but I don't know if I could stand to sit through it, based on this.
As for Sony, between the release/no-release/sort-of-release drama, and all the embarrassment the leaked emails have caused, I doubt they will ever come to view this as a positive experience, no matter how much money they might make off it. A lot of peole are just ticked off at them because of suspicions they've orchestrated at least part of this mess. I don't give them that much credit.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Dec 25, 2014 9:01:20 GMT -5
Do you think Kim might have stock in Sony? Just sayin'
Mike
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