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Post by billhammond on Jan 26, 2015 12:17:44 GMT -5
I remember when you wanted to slip in "Hallelujah" but they wouldn't let you. I think we've done Hallelujah. There are sanitized versions of lyrics that flip it back to a church-appropriate song. There are many such songs from the popular secular realm that can be easily cleaned up and turned into a pro-culture instead of counter-culture meaning. It's a nice trick to flip a song that is a flip to begin with. Listeners are on edge, until they hear the reversed message. Just another trick in the book. I don't get involved in the selection process. I'm kind of there for the fellowship with fellow musicians, and to work the craft and support the church. Then there is this approach, where you focus on the words you like, and just ignore the ones you don't know the meaning of:
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Post by millring on Jan 26, 2015 12:29:52 GMT -5
Funny thing...
Our PBS station plays Lawrence Welk re-runs on Saturday (at least, I think it's Saturday). Whatever it precedes or follows, I often catch bits of the show. If I find myself continuing to watch instead of changing the channel or turning the set off, it's usually due to the same impulse that leads a fellow to rubberneck at a horrible auto accident or an article about Michael Jackson.
But last weekend they played a re-run from quite probably the 50s (I don't know when the show actually started and I'm not going to google it right now. It was black and white). The music was fantastic and the bizarre, anachronistic, whatever-the-hell-it-is that makes Welk such a train wreck was completely absent. It came off as a normal and quite entertaining variety show.
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Post by drlj on Jan 26, 2015 12:44:05 GMT -5
Maybe you liked the show because you were drunk?
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Post by billhammond on Jan 26, 2015 13:00:40 GMT -5
O Lord, I had forgotten how awful this theme song was:
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Post by dradtke on Jan 26, 2015 14:05:53 GMT -5
Funny thing... Our PBS station plays Lawrence Welk re-runs on Saturday (at least, I think it's Saturday). Whatever it precedes or follows, I often catch bits of the show. If I find myself continuing to watch instead of changing the channel or turning the set off, it's usually due to the same impulse that leads a fellow to rubberneck at a horrible auto accident or an article about Michael Jackson. But last weekend they played a re-run from quite probably the 50s (I don't know when the show actually started and I'm not going to google it right now. It was black and white). The music was fantastic and the bizarre, anachronistic, whatever-the-hell-it-is that makes Welk such a train wreck was completely absent. It came off as a normal and quite entertaining variety show. I noticed that when it would come on at my mother's nursing home. The black and white shows were great examples of big band music. When they tried to modernize it it all went to hell.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 26, 2015 14:41:42 GMT -5
O Lord, I had forgotten how awful this theme song was: I always thought that maybe they did that so the rest of the show would look pretty good in comparison.
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Post by millring on Jan 26, 2015 14:46:57 GMT -5
On the other hand, the song from which it stole the seed of an idea is pretty awesome.
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Post by dradtke on Jan 26, 2015 14:55:20 GMT -5
On the other hand, the song from which it stole the seed of an idea is pretty awesome. Thanks, John. I clicked on Bill's link, and I needed something to get the tune out of my head.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 26, 2015 15:10:30 GMT -5
O Lord, I had forgotten how awful this theme song was: I always thought that maybe they did that so the rest of the show would look pretty good in comparison. Nothing like 4 monotone voices singing in unison. "I thought you were doing the harmony?" "No, YOU were supposed to sing harmony."
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Post by Doug on Jan 26, 2015 15:33:42 GMT -5
I don't know about the rest of you but I didn't know about the boycotts etc. in 1963. It was much later when I found out why you didn't see Baez, Dylan, Pete, the Weavers etc. It did propel the "Great Folk Scare" to the general public.
Would we ever have had the Smothers Brothers Show with out Hootenanny or have seen Martin Mull as a folksinger.
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Post by Cornflake on Jan 26, 2015 17:51:39 GMT -5
We don't have any contemporary music at our church. I can't imagine that we're going to have any in my lifetime. Things have changed so much in church music that our more traditional approach is unusual, and it's something of a magnet.
Everyone has strong views about church music. Mine is that it's an adjunct to worship, and that if it ever becomes a performance or entertainment, something has gone wrong. Choirs should be heard and not seen. My view is mostly shared in theory by our church staff. In practice, there are some lapses. I also think that congregants/parishioners need to remember that whether any one of us likes the music or not isn't the key question. It may be working for others even if it isn't my cup of tea.
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Post by coachdoc on Jan 26, 2015 22:16:49 GMT -5
My cousin sang Angel Band at my Mom's funeral. It was powerful. Through a friend of a friend situation I got to hear Levon Helm and friends sing Angel Band at Artie Traum's memorial in the Bearsville Theater. I cried.
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Post by Chesapeake on Jan 26, 2015 22:49:50 GMT -5
I think we've done Hallelujah. There are sanitized versions of lyrics that flip it back to a church-appropriate song. There are many such songs from the popular secular realm that can be easily cleaned up and turned into a pro-culture instead of counter-culture meaning. It's a nice trick to flip a song that is a flip to begin with. Listeners are on edge, until they hear the reversed message. Just another trick in the book. I don't get involved in the selection process. I'm kind of there for the fellowship with fellow musicians, and to work the craft and support the church. Then there is this approach, where you focus on the words you like, and just ignore the ones you don't know the meaning of: I've heard the betting is about even that they knew exactly what that word meant and it was all a prank on people who didn't, and who assumed it was a gospel number. I guess we'll never know for sure.
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Post by Chesapeake on Jan 26, 2015 23:11:59 GMT -5
On the other hand, the song from which it stole the seed of an idea is pretty awesome. For a fleeting moment I was transported back to the days when that era of folk music made a big impression on my young soul. Then I noticed the curious fact that, even though the audience cutaway shots look highly staged, they apparently saw no need to put a single black face out there. Kind of creepy, really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 6:57:16 GMT -5
I think we've done Hallelujah. There are sanitized versions of lyrics that flip it back to a church-appropriate song. There are many such songs from the popular secular realm that can be easily cleaned up and turned into a pro-culture instead of counter-culture meaning. It's a nice trick to flip a song that is a flip to begin with. Listeners are on edge, until they hear the reversed message. Just another trick in the book. I don't get involved in the selection process. I'm kind of there for the fellowship with fellow musicians, and to work the craft and support the church. Then there is this approach, where you focus on the words you like, and just ignore the ones you don't know the meaning of: They knew exactly what they were doing. They went too far. They went one joke over the line.
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