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Post by TKennedy on Mar 3, 2015 16:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by drlj on Mar 3, 2015 16:49:08 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to say. And this, the day after I read the Dylan interview in AARP's magazine.
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Post by Village Idiot on Mar 3, 2015 16:54:28 GMT -5
Hmmm.... He did a whole lot better than I would have exected, but I still wouldn't buy the album.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Mar 3, 2015 16:57:36 GMT -5
Interesting. Im thinking I liked it.
Mike
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Post by Russell Letson on Mar 3, 2015 17:19:51 GMT -5
It's nice that Dylan is attracted to these songs. Which isn't to say that he should be singing them in public. I've heard this one twice now, and I can't imagine wanting to hear it again. On the other hand, I've listened to Keely Smith, Ray Charles, Rosemary Clooney, for fifty years and more. (And quite liked Dylans's first three or four LPs. But a sense of one's limits is as important to art as the urge to push against them.)
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Post by Lonnie on Mar 3, 2015 17:23:32 GMT -5
Kids, in case you haven't noticed, the Emperor is naked.
I love Dylan... I participate in a number of "tribute to the music of Bob Dylan" shows every year. I think he's one of the most innovative songwriters who ever walked this planet. I think his voice, on his material and the folk songs he cut his teeth on, is dynamic, expressive... perhaps even the voice of a generation.
Now then, this stuff is some of the worst drivel I've ever heard. He's not connected to this material... he sounds bored, the band sounds bored... he simply doesn't have a voice that can do any sort of justice to these songs.
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Post by millring on Mar 3, 2015 17:46:54 GMT -5
I'm glad Bob got away clean.
This sure made a fantastic closing scene for St Vincent.
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Post by factorychef on Mar 3, 2015 18:30:31 GMT -5
Todd, When was the last time you bought an album
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Post by patrick on Mar 3, 2015 18:31:58 GMT -5
Kids, in case you haven't noticed, the Emperor is naked. I love Dylan... I participate in a number of "tribute to the music of Bob Dylan" shows every year. I think he's one of the most innovative songwriters who ever walked this planet. I think his voice, on his material and the folk songs he cut his teeth on, is dynamic, expressive... perhaps even the voice of a generation. Now then, this stuff is some of the worst drivel I've ever heard. He's not connected to this material... he sounds bored, the band sounds bored... he simply doesn't have a voice that can do any sort of justice to these songs. I have to agree. There is a limit to how far outside of a particular genre a song in that genre can go without sounding like dreck. This is the original: Dylan singing a song intended for Sinatra or one of his generation is as weird as Sinatra singing a Dylan song. Here's a comparison of three different singing styles on the same song: Incidentally, I like Dylan and his songs.
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Post by godotwaits on Mar 3, 2015 18:55:56 GMT -5
I think Rachmaninoff just rolled over in his grave.
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Post by coachdoc on Mar 3, 2015 19:56:09 GMT -5
As a guy whose voice is crapping out faster and faster, I sorta like the Dylan version of call it a day. But I think the song itself sucks.
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Post by drlj on Mar 3, 2015 20:00:31 GMT -5
In the AARP interview(I still can't believe I am saying that), Dylan went on about how much he liked Sinatra and how he thinks Ol' Frank would like and respect what he was doing with these songs. Me, I think Frank is spinning like a dervish in his plot.
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Post by billhammond on Mar 3, 2015 20:10:57 GMT -5
Frank had no problem doing other hitmakers' songs, though.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Mar 3, 2015 21:28:24 GMT -5
Bob should have had this guy dub for him:
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Post by TKennedy on Mar 3, 2015 23:13:18 GMT -5
I liked the surprise ending.
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Post by RickW on Mar 4, 2015 1:36:27 GMT -5
Well, dammit, as I have said many times, I never liked Bob Dylan. Now I like him even less.
Actually, even listening to Frank sing it, there are way better songs in the American songbook. That ones kind of mushy drivel.
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Post by mnhermit on Mar 4, 2015 8:32:49 GMT -5
Dylan has a unique and individual voice/style. So did Sinatra. That's as far as I'm willing to go in the comparison. Listening to Dylan do Sinatra, I kept thinking that I'd rather be listening to Clint Eastwood in Paint your Wagon. But NOT Lee Marvin!
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Post by Marshall on Mar 4, 2015 15:23:15 GMT -5
Well I listened to most of it. It's more listenable than others I've heard from this record. I love the tune. Bobby is tolerable for once through it. I expect the real bonus of all this (and I will backpedal on my negative first impressions) is that the American Songbook will come back into vogue. For that I'll thank Bobby, profusely. And I will say that these songs should have a life beyond the Big Band Frank Sinatra renditions. I'd love to hear more modern artists with stripped down acoustic backgrounds and earthy voices bring a reality to these songs that are already dripping with emotion. So, Bravo Bobby. I hope this is a start of something big in the modern music realm. (But I still won't buy the CD).
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Post by Russell Letson on Mar 4, 2015 16:53:09 GMT -5
I don't know about "earthy"--this song makes non-trivial demands on the pipes. I note that when Frank first recording of it (1942), his voice was as big as it was ever going to be.
The tune has attracted a pretty wide range of artists, vocal and instrumental, and a corresponding range of arrangements.
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