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Shut Down
Jan 20, 2018 0:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 20, 2018 0:20:52 GMT -5
Well, looks like the Dumbocrats have stolen idiocy from the jaws of defeat with the Schumer Shutdown.
Couldn't happen to a stupider bunch of boobs.
Good luck with that.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 20, 2018 2:12:14 GMT -5
The repubs have the house, the senate, the supremes, and the presidency. Yep, it's definately the democrats fault.
Mike
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 20, 2018 5:07:14 GMT -5
No one controls the Senate. It takes 60 votes to pass a bill and neither side has 60 members. Therefore, this is "Normal" operation. Thing is though, this is a budget bill and the Democrats are trying to hold it up on an immigration issue that has nothing to do with budget, is based on an Obama executive order which doesn't expire until March or could be renewed or a new immigration law could be passed to handle the issue. Yup, it's definitely the Republican's fault because Schumer, that piece of New York shit, says so.
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 20, 2018 6:06:03 GMT -5
Well, looks like the Dumbocrats have stolen idiocy from the jaws of defeat with the Schumer Shutdown. Couldn't happen to a stupider bunch of boobs. ... I guess a newbie might not realize that you'd been out behind the woodshed for a while.
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Post by theevan on Jan 20, 2018 7:25:43 GMT -5
Is there a legit reason for the hand wringing? Other than non-essential services being on hold?
Wait, if those services aren't essential, why are we even doing them?
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Post by millring on Jan 20, 2018 7:49:34 GMT -5
The story is the credibility of the press. They suddenly and magically think that a shutdown is now the honorable tactic of well-meaning statesmen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 7:51:20 GMT -5
I'm Non-Essential, Evan. I suppose the Government could contract my position out. There are other schools in the officer professional education system that do. We are about 60% Army Civilian Corps and 40% uniformed military where I work. The uniformed side is going to have to pick up our slack next week as we sit, unpaid, at home.
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Post by millring on Jan 20, 2018 8:08:22 GMT -5
Will you get back pay when the government re-opens?
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 20, 2018 8:11:21 GMT -5
Shutdown? Even as non-essential, I guess I'd go to work as usual. Why not?
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 20, 2018 8:49:16 GMT -5
To govern this country, both sides need to compromise. Not seeing any leadership from the repubs on this. As far as the dems digging in their heels on daca, the repubs have had years to fix this. To think they will in the next month and a half on their own flies in the face of all their previous actions.
Mike
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Post by billhammond on Jan 20, 2018 8:55:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 9:12:01 GMT -5
I preferred Little Deuce Coupe.
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Post by millring on Jan 20, 2018 9:24:31 GMT -5
Find me the corollary article in which the Obama administration was blamed for Ted Cruz's shutdown. Find me the article that could be characterized as blaming the Democrats for pushing us to the precipice of national disaster and international shame like it did when the Republicans were supposedly blamed for a shutdown. Show me the hair-on-fire looming disaster articles we were treated to back then.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 20, 2018 9:34:17 GMT -5
Well, looks like the Dumbocrats have stolen idiocy from the jaws of defeat with the Schumer Shutdown. Couldn't happen to a stupider bunch of boobs. ... I guess a newbie might not realize that you'd been out behind the woodshed for a while. I call "Foul," jdd. Peter is expressing his political views with no harm towards any one on this board. You're making it personal. You don't have to agree with him. I often don't agree with him. But we all need to keep out of the personal wheelhouse.
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Post by billhammond on Jan 20, 2018 9:35:17 GMT -5
Find me the corollary article in which the Obama administration was blamed for Ted Cruz's shutdown. Find me the article that could be characterized as blaming the Democrats for pushing us to the precipice of national disaster and international shame like it did when the Republicans were supposedly blamed for a shutdown. Show me the hair-on-fire looming disaster articles we were treated to back then. The article clearly blames both parties. You might cite some of those passages. This will end my commenting on this thread, not gonna go there, I'm already bummed out enough this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 9:38:10 GMT -5
[...] Yup, it's definitely the Republican's fault because Schumer, that piece of New York shit, says so. Bruce—be nice. I'm from New York, too.
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Post by coachdoc on Jan 20, 2018 9:52:00 GMT -5
I miss Doug an awful lot.
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Post by Dub on Jan 20, 2018 10:03:13 GMT -5
I thought they had a compromise worked out until 45 pulled the rug from under the deal by doing a flip at the last minute. Maybe I misunderstood.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 10:06:20 GMT -5
Little Old Lady from Pasadena was also kind of cool.
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Post by Hobson on Jan 20, 2018 10:13:18 GMT -5
As a retired federal employee, I know that we were not allowed to show up for work during a shutdown. As for the question of whether the people affected will get paid anyway, that's a maybe. Congress would have to approve that. It's not an extra vacation when you don't know from one day to the next if you'll be called back to work. And I recall at least one time when the furlough lasted weeks. Those who had enough savings to carry them through were OK. For others it wasn't a good time. And unless you're in some kind of service job where having no customers because you're closed means there's nothing to do, the work piles up and still has to get done when you're back on the job.
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