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Post by fauxmaha on Mar 5, 2018 19:22:31 GMT -5
I've heard that Harley Davidson is working on electric bikes that still make that Harley Sound. Wasn't that a Ron Howard movie with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James? More particularly, they said they want they electric bike to have a "distinctive" sound, not necessarily the same sound as their v-twins. It's all going to fail anyway. Traditional HD customers have no interest in electric bikes, and potential electric bike customers have no interest in HD. The only thing that saves the MoCo in anything like it's current form is if some TV or movie character comes along and reinvigorates demand.
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Post by billhammond on Mar 5, 2018 19:53:32 GMT -5
The only thing that saves the MoCo in anything like its current form is if some TV or movie character comes along and reinvigorates demand. Or perhaps the Indigo Girls?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 20:25:33 GMT -5
I've heard that Harley Davidson is working on electric bikes that still make that Harley Sound. Wasn't that a Ron Howard movie with Vince Vaughn and Kevin James? More particularly, they said they want they electric bike to have a "distinctive" sound, not necessarily the same sound as their v-twins. It's all going to fail anyway. Traditional HD customers have no interest in electric bikes, and potential electric bike customers have no interest in HD. The only thing that saves the MoCo in anything like it's current form is if some TV or movie character comes along and reinvigorates demand. Kind of like watching the disaster that is Gibson Guitars, only for different reasons. Failure to understand the customer base is not a good business habit.
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Post by james on Mar 5, 2018 20:50:36 GMT -5
Harley Davidson will maybe do better with a wider range of lower cost and more versatile bikes. The Indian Scout is IMO a cooler seeming, classic American touring bike at a lower price.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 20:58:55 GMT -5
Harley Davidson Gibson will maybe do better with a wider range of lower cost and more versatile bikes guitars. The Indian Scout The Epiphone line, if Gibson incorporated the Gibson headstock and logo, is would be a classic American touring bike GREAT Gibson guitar at a lower price.
Part of Gibson's problem when talking with folks on the inside is that corporate leadership is poor, and morale has tanked.
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Post by timfarney on Mar 5, 2018 21:12:44 GMT -5
Harley Davidson Gibson will maybe do better with a wider range of lower cost and more versatile bikes guitars. The Indian Scout The Epiphone line, if Gibson incorporated the Gibson headstock and logo, is would be a classic American touring bike GREAT Gibson guitar at a lower price. Part of Gibson's problem when talking with folks on the inside is that corporate leadership is poor, and morale has tanked. I think they’ve got a lot of problems, from being seriously over leveraged in the wake of some really bad expansion decisions, to really bad product development decisions, to really bad QC, which, yeah, is probably a result of bad management. They’ve really blown it. Could have left everything alone and concentrated on making the best possible versions of their classic designs, and they’d be making plenty of money. The brand will endure, but it needs to get in the hands of someone who cares about building guitars soon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 21:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Mar 6, 2018 15:09:13 GMT -5
Then somebody will come along and buy the brand at a fire sale price. The question is will they still be American made after that point.
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Post by jdd2 on Mar 6, 2018 18:52:32 GMT -5
Apparently Heritage has just had an upheaval, too.
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Also, "top economic advisor" Cohn is giving up.
(edit: I wonder what stock futures would do if trump resigned...?)
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Post by brucemacneill on Jun 19, 2018 8:34:13 GMT -5
In spite of all the arguments against, this issue looks like it will go forward. So we will see what happens, One thing I will have to give Trump. It surprises me, but companies are moving back money to this country due to the tax cuts they recieved. Significant amounts, in the billions. I incorrectly assumed that rather than pay any taxes they would just leave them overseas and enjoy the free ride. So billions will be distributed to their shareholders, who, assuming that some of that will be used as income, will also pay some tax on it, or it will be used for investment, which is better than keeping it Ib foreign bank. I still don't think the tax cuts are a over all good thing, but credit where it's due. As for the rest of his policies, he is batshit crazy. Mike OK, so officially, "Batshit" as an adjective is only used for conservatives. I got it.
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Post by aquaduct on Jun 19, 2018 8:42:59 GMT -5
In spite of all the arguments against, this issue looks like it will go forward. So we will see what happens, One thing I will have to give Trump. It surprises me, but companies are moving back money to this country due to the tax cuts they recieved. Significant amounts, in the billions. I incorrectly assumed that rather than pay any taxes they would just leave them overseas and enjoy the free ride. So billions will be distributed to their shareholders, who, assuming that some of that will be used as income, will also pay some tax on it, or it will be used for investment, which is better than keeping it Ib foreign bank. I still don't think the tax cuts are a over all good thing, but credit where it's due. As for the rest of his policies, he is batshit crazy. Mike OK, so officially, "Batshit" as an adjective is only used for conservatives. I got it. Some things never change.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 19, 2018 9:06:51 GMT -5
OK, so officially, "Batshit" as an adjective is only used for conservatives. I got it. Some things never change. If the foo shits, wear it.
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Post by aquaduct on Jun 19, 2018 9:10:45 GMT -5
Some things never change. If the foo shits, wear it. Always have.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 19, 2018 9:12:03 GMT -5
Oops. i hadn't read the other batshit thread. I didn't mean to step in it.
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