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Post by epaul on Aug 9, 2018 23:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by jdd2 on Aug 10, 2018 0:44:41 GMT -5
"Why are you lying?" "National policy."  |
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Post by jdd2 on Aug 10, 2018 2:10:41 GMT -5
Jumping around from there, I got to tractor hacking, or "right to repair":
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Post by coachdoc on Aug 10, 2018 8:38:46 GMT -5
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Post by coachdoc on Aug 10, 2018 8:53:50 GMT -5
Jumping around from there, I got to tractor hacking, or "right to repair": So innocent on the surface, this is a Huge issue. If you can hack into a device to repair, you can hack into a device to steal. |
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Post by epaul on Aug 10, 2018 9:12:03 GMT -5
One of the reasons why John Deere is John Deere and no one else is (spelling and the green color being the other two). John Deere has the most dealers, they are everywhere (good access to parts, repairs, and on-farm service calls), so there is good sense to buying a John Deere tractor, even if it costs more. Now that the tractor communicates with the seeding equipment it pulls, it makes good sense to buy a John Deere planter as well as the communication between the two systems will be more reliable if both pieces of equipment are speaking "Deere". (other brands of planters can try learn "Deere", but translation issues can and do pop up).
Deere is a juggernaut. There are issues with that. On the other hand, it has earned its seat on the mountain. Compared to Deere, all the other farm equipment companies have been and still are a collection of inept stumble bums, constantly going broke, closing dealerships, re-organizing, going broke again, closing the dealerships they had just opened, re-organizing, merging, going broke, digging up old names, splashing on with fresh paint, and then going broke, closing dealerships, and selling the name to another stumblenut. I didn't grow up a John Deere guy, but there is no question, in the tractor world, John Deere has been a prince amongst a group of fools.
Do you break a monopoly that has been earned and deserved in order to give a bunch of fools a fifth and sixth chance to screw up yet again?
But, if this computer code stuff isn't fixed, the innovators that have fed Deere and others with new ideas will disappear. Deere did not come up with air-delivery seeder systems or axial-flow harvesters, two concepts that now dominate both seeding and harvesting. Conservative Deere waited and watched, and when the benefit of each was clear and established, Deere came out with their own versions, which were superb and which were supported by the vast resources of Deere World.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 10, 2018 10:04:36 GMT -5
"There's pirated software out there from eastern Europe that people are using to try to get around this problem."
Now the Russians are hacking our tractors. I'll bet they're posting little subliminal "Vote Trump" messages across the screens. No wonder rural America goes Trump.
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Post by TKennedy on Aug 10, 2018 12:17:35 GMT -5
Good example of being really funny without using the F word.
God they were good and Tommy was a great guitar player to boot.
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Post by xyrn on Aug 10, 2018 14:34:11 GMT -5
"There's pirated software out there from eastern Europe that people are using to try to get around this problem." Now the Russians are hacking our tractors. I'll bet they're posting little subliminal "Vote Trump" messages across the screens. No wonder rural America goes Trump. It's worse than that, they've hacked into the tractors' autopilot system.  |
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Post by coachdoc on Aug 10, 2018 15:16:11 GMT -5
Now these two topics are about as disparate that topics can be while contained in one thread. Yikes.
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