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Post by kenlarsson on Oct 24, 2006 8:14:29 GMT -5
I am posting this on both forums.
The continued backbiting and fighting between certain members of this forum and the "other" forum has lead me to conclude that I need to get out and away from it all. It's just not fun to go to either place anymore. For a while it looked like people were trying to make a clean split. Some people going to this forum only, some people going to the other forum only and some people like myself who continued to go to both. The conflicts seemed to be dying down but now there is a new spate of cross forum arguing and all the old fights are just going on and on and on. On the forums and apparently via private messages.
It will ruin both forums and I don't want to be around it.
I will probably return at some point and see if things have finally settled but for now I've got better things to do than to plug into the battle of the endless resentments.
I will still host the jam I'm planning on December 2nd. If you still want to attend or just keep in touch with me use my email. 88ford@tampabay.rr.com
Be well and may you all find happiness and joy.
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Post by Cribbs on Oct 24, 2006 8:22:15 GMT -5
Ken, I am planning on invading your house and bringing a quart of moonshine with me. Beats a bottle of wine. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Hoep to see you back here soon. I'll be in touch.
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Post by billhammond on Oct 24, 2006 8:27:52 GMT -5
That is a loss for both forums, Ken.
Stay in touch. You are a great guy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2006 8:35:40 GMT -5
Sad. A pity you can't ignore it, Ken. Maybe it's a function of me being a newbie to either board that I don't feel affected by what has clearly got some "history" Maybe someone should open up a 3rd board and call it "The Truth And Reconciliation Forum". I've lurked there a couple of times. I got no bones with the folks there. I don't participate because there simply isn't a topic posted about which I've got anything to say. It all reads like private correspondence accidently made public. I wish they'd talk about guitars or music just occasionally. I would but there's only so much time to go posting on internet forums. Paul's fingerstyle forum is cool, but it's so damn quiet. We should invade, overthrow the current regime, win hearts and minds, and bugger off when we've screwed it up enough. ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2006 8:40:46 GMT -5
LOL Dave. Ken I can understand your position and hope you will stop in every now and again and at least lurk. You will be missed.
Jim
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Post by guitone on Oct 24, 2006 8:54:37 GMT -5
I guess I am out of the loop......maybe because I just come here...I have not seen any posts here regarding TTT except in the first few days, then it stopped. I would ask what I have missed but I really figure I am better off if I don't know.
Ken, take a rest, I know I did from TTT before and it helped, hope to see you soon.
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Post by Doug on Oct 24, 2006 8:59:34 GMT -5
I thought I was keeping up but I don't know what's going on. Must have missed some post.
But no one tell me, it would be feeding a fire that doesn't need feeding.
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Post by guitone on Oct 24, 2006 9:02:02 GMT -5
I would like to add one thing...
If anyone on this forum is posting on TTT to try to make them see anything, it is time to move on...there was a split, it is done, some chose to be here, some there, some both places. Live and let live.....time to just move on, don't forget, but move on. Whatever was is no more. We all have feeling about what TTT was, but it is different now, and this board is different too.
Not trying to be holier than thou, or philosophical, just want to avoid having anyone else get upset..Ken is a good guy, I have always loved to watch his avatars change....I hate to see anyone leaver here...a good community should be kept good....
Sorry, rant over.....
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 24, 2006 9:12:31 GMT -5
See, I told you we should have kept karma.
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Post by timfarney on Oct 24, 2006 9:39:23 GMT -5
I would like to add one thing... If anyone on this forum is posting on TTT to try to make them see anything, it is time to move on...there was a split, it is done, some chose to be here, some there, some both places. Live and let live.....time to just move on, don't forget, but move on. Whatever was is no more. We all have feeling about what TTT was, but it is different now, and this board is different too. Not trying to be holier than thou, or philosophical, just want to avoid having anyone else get upset..Ken is a good guy, I have always loved to watch his avatars change....I hate to see anyone leaver here...a good community should be kept good.... Sorry, rant over..... I post to both forums, not because I'm trying to show them anything, but because I still have some friends over there who don't participate here. There have been a few times, however, when someone over there has posted stuff about the Soundhole and what's going on here that was just plain false. Or at least a misunderstanding. I haven't been able to let that pass, and that's probably not going to change. I'm not trying to teach anyone any lessons, but I can't just watch people build animosity on misunderstanding or misrepresentation either. If that is just feeding the fire, it's probably time for me to bow out of TTT. Regarding activity here, I'm clueless as well. If folks here have been talking about TTT lately - negatively or otherwise - I've missed it. I hate to see you go, Ken, but I've completely missed the backbiting and fighting at this end. Tim
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Post by guitone on Oct 24, 2006 9:48:46 GMT -5
Tim,
Man am I running late, but before I head out, I think it is fine to post in both places, you have friends on both forums....I think throwing stones is just silly, really...and yes, I know sometimes when we see someone make a mis-statement I at least want to fix it.....so we are the same in this regard...probably only get's you grief I bet.
Anyway, stay posting at both, keep us all clean, we need that, I think....
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Post by t-bob on Oct 24, 2006 11:18:01 GMT -5
I just re-visited TTT yesterday for the 1st time since the schism, and participated in a thread about telecom convergence, something about which I'm very knowledgable and interested. Didn't look at any of the other threads, just the titles, and I do the same thing at The Soundhole. Most of the folks I have the best rapport with are The Soundhole, but there are a few still at TTT as well. Happy guitar playing whenever you are, Ken.
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Post by Cornflake on Oct 24, 2006 11:25:33 GMT -5
I don't check the other place and I haven't seen anything on the split recently here. Maybe I missed something. I'd been pleased that we seemed to have put that subject largely behind us.
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Post by timfarney on Oct 24, 2006 13:30:13 GMT -5
So far...
Tim
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Post by iamjohnne on Oct 24, 2006 16:51:56 GMT -5
Ken, I am really sorry you feel the way you do about the forums. I know that I can't change your feelings. Please keep in touch with us, come back and lurk and post when you will.
I am still planning on seeing you in December.
Johnne
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Post by majorminor on Oct 24, 2006 19:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by HarmonEyes on Oct 24, 2006 19:33:36 GMT -5
Hi Ken, I can understand how you feel...if taking a break is what it'll take to give you peace of mind, I'll support you. You'll be missed, friend. Take care. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2006 20:01:25 GMT -5
Can't fault you for your choice, Ken. I'll miss you here though. Stay in touch. I'll try to catch you one day soon.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 24, 2006 20:30:34 GMT -5
Ken. You're a ray of sunshine in a dark and desolate world. . . . , or something like that. Your influence in this (and other worlds) is always a positive one.
There will always be a soft spot in my heart for you and your couch.
Come visit.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Oct 24, 2006 21:20:45 GMT -5
Aw shit. Why can't everyone just let it go?
Ken, sorry to say goodbye. Best wishes. Mike
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