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Post by John B on Nov 9, 2009 14:44:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm looking for some warm up excercises as well as some brain-to-hand-to-phalanges-to-hand-to-brain rewiring.
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Post by RickW on Nov 9, 2009 14:47:27 GMT -5
The warm up stuff in Pumping Nylon may interest you then. The rewiring - working through Serious Guitar may help. It's working with me. Just have to stick with it - it's not a short trip.
He has a table of contents on his web site.
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Post by John B on Nov 9, 2009 14:59:02 GMT -5
I'd like to get away from how my right hand fingers work together - for example, pmi pmi pm - I'd like to be able to do pim pim pm with equal facility, work on getting my fingers to different strings , as well as try to get my two hands to work together.
None of this as an end, or the entire reason for practicing; merely a tool in the toolbox to widen my handyman capabilities (nothing like getting a new fancy tool to make me want to redo the house!).
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Post by John B on Nov 9, 2009 15:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by RickW on Nov 9, 2009 16:02:55 GMT -5
One excellent exercise in Pumping Nylon, that he developed to address the problem with crossing strings, which seems to be where the problems often arise.:
Left hand, any old 6 string cowboy chord. I use Em.
Right hand, start with IM, and go cross string, (1 is low E.) 1,2,3,4,5,6,5,4,3,2,1 - so, I on 1, M on 2 , I on 3, etc. The start out with M, and do MI. Then do MA, AM, IA, AI. It's a brilliant exercise, and really helps.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 9, 2009 16:34:29 GMT -5
Rick, that sounds like a good idea. I think I'll start with that.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 9, 2009 18:08:42 GMT -5
Ever since the i-jam I have been really working on fingerpicking though I am not great at it yet it has opened up my ears to the possibilities. Too see that much talent in one place is staggering. I took it home with me and currently am working on a little something for next year. Also Factory Chef hope to get something cooking with you guitars or food it is all good ;D Practice is one way to get there. (That's what they tell me, anyway. I think they're lying.) The other is just to make sure you follow me in the lineup. I wish I had taken the time to talk to you and your wife at Idiot Jam. It's not like I was too busy (especially not if you count nap time). I feel like a dope after seeing the two of you show up here on the soundhole afterward. Next year...
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 9, 2009 21:24:14 GMT -5
Right hand, start with IM, and go cross string, (1 is low E.) 1,2,3,4,5,6,5,4,3,2,1 - so, I on 1, M on 2 , I on 3, etc. The start out with M, and do MI. Then do MA, AM, IA, AI. It's a brilliant exercise, and really helps. No P I / I P? I started with PI. Can't really do it, not yet. IM is easier. Should I skip PI, or no?
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Post by RickW on Nov 9, 2009 21:29:11 GMT -5
It's about the fingers, this one. No P. Just IM, MI, MA, AM, IA, AI. Take it slowly to get it smooth, and speed up. Go up and down with each combo of fingers 8 times.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 9, 2009 21:35:50 GMT -5
Ok. No p. Thanks.
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Post by Greg B on Nov 10, 2009 9:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 10, 2009 11:00:56 GMT -5
It's not as bad as you might think with a carbon guitar.
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Post by John B on Nov 10, 2009 13:15:28 GMT -5
Ever since the i-jam I have been really working on fingerpicking though I am not great at it yet it has opened up my ears to the possibilities. Too see that much talent in one place is staggering. I took it home with me and currently am working on a little something for next year. Also Factory Chef hope to get something cooking with you guitars or food it is all good ;D I know that my husband meant that he doesn't want to play perfectly just wants to learn.He plays with passion I know and so do I.I make mistakes on my piano after 19 years of playing.It's my passion that makes people want to hear.I love hearing him play and learn new stuff and even with his mistakes which are few he plays with his heart and soul for me and others.Sorry if people misunderstood him.Have a Wonderful day and God Bless You.I really did enjoy listening to everyone at the i jam and they all played with passion and soul and talent and it was nice to hear. ;D Back to the orginal posts (sorry for the thread drift)... How about practice (can) make progress? The two iJams I've attended definitely energized my playing, and my desire to do something new with my playing. They reminded me that "hey, playing guitar is fun!" The best part of iJam is the warm, friendly, and encouraging atmosphere. No one cares how well you play - or how well you think you play. Just play! Or just listen. But have fun, and stretch your boundaries if you want to! John P.S. From the radio show Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!: Q. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? A. You just ask, and if they like you, they let you rent it. But you would not believe the security deposit.
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Post by Dub on Nov 10, 2009 17:01:33 GMT -5
An interesting treatise on practice for the musician. - LINK -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 17:17:50 GMT -5
Whilst I play and practice lots and lots for fun and get to where I can twang some quite nifty tunes, one thing I've noticed is that, when one decides to go a-wooing, any old strum accompanied by some kind of effort at singing is the way to go if you want a kiss. Steve Martin started playing banjo on tv now. Wow he's been practicing!!
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 10, 2009 17:39:34 GMT -5
Dub, that's pretty good. Thanks.
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Post by TKennedy on Nov 10, 2009 18:17:08 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but make sure you can play the finger patterns clean and without effort before increasing speed. Otherwise you can groove mistakes and possibly get focal dystonia in a finger from playing tense. If that happens there ain't no good cure and your fingerstyle days could be over.
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Post by Doug on Nov 10, 2009 20:33:32 GMT -5
I think I've mentioned this before but make sure you can play the finger patterns clean and without effort before increasing speed. Otherwise you can groove mistakes and possibly get focal dystonia in a finger from playing tense. If that happens there ain't no good cure and your fingerstyle days could be over. Explain that to a hacker. I'm lost. I'm a freestyle finger picker (that means that other than the base runs I mostly have no idea which finger is hitting which string, they just kind of do what they want, and if a wrong finger hits a wrong string they don't do that again <that's what I tell myself anyway ;D) I can pattern pick but I learned it a long time ago (60's) and I don't do it much so I'm a little rough and I think too much when I pattern pick. So mostly I just let the right hand do what it wants. Just like my kids never listens anyway. ;D But I don't understand "groove mistakes" ...........
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Post by TKennedy on Nov 10, 2009 23:48:00 GMT -5
I was referring to playing structured patterns like banjo rolls. If you go for speed before your roll is really solid slow you tend to make the same little mistakes over and over and eventually you groove them. Then it's hard to get rid of them. You wind up playing tense and that's a bad thing. At least it was in my case.
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Post by RickW on Nov 11, 2009 1:19:35 GMT -5
Know what you mean. It's been the single biggest limiter in progression for me - I hit plateaus I have created myself, through bad habits, and trying to play above my head.
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