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Post by t-bob on Apr 6, 2012 5:37:13 GMT -5
I may have made a mistake choosing this company. Look at this. I receive it after just 3 days of work. I have not responded yet, as I make it a habit to never write send an email when pissed off. I wrote a response and deleted it earlier this evening. My paranoia tells me that my email could be monitored. Below is the response that is not being sent.
It's kept me awake tonight.
I actually enjoy the work, my immediate supervisor, the sales support staff, and the company has terrific offerings for clients, and is rated A-, very good for a credit card processing company. There is an opportunity to make very good money without ripping off clients. I can only hope this is a one-off. I need to keep in mind this motivational quote, "Succeed despite your manager."
Thanks for letting me vent.
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Post by frazer on Apr 6, 2012 5:49:21 GMT -5
What a turd.
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Post by mccoyblues on Apr 6, 2012 6:15:19 GMT -5
I think this deserves a face to face meeting. Nothing I could put together in an email is going to sound right. My response would be to set a meeting with the manager and discuss your first week performance in person.
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Post by millring on Apr 6, 2012 6:19:23 GMT -5
dang, Bob. That seems utterly unreasonable. I need to be more thankful for my self-employment.
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Post by Tamarack on Apr 6, 2012 7:07:11 GMT -5
Sheesh!!! I have received similar emails from uninformed, condescending, egotistical, micro-managing bosses -- but for you it has only been three days! This micro-manager might or might not be aware you have only been working three days; either way he is a total ass.
John and Rob are located close by and Indiana is a short drive for me. Perhaps we should occupy his office and sing Neil Young songs until he sees the error of his ways. (might be a long session -- my experience with such bosses is that leopards don't change their spots)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 7:14:25 GMT -5
What a jackass! I think I'd already be unemployed.
If he's this way after 3 days, he won't be any better after 3 weeks, or 3 months.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Apr 6, 2012 7:22:22 GMT -5
I'd suggest something like this:
Hello Bill,
Thank you for the early feedback. After only three days in the field, I wasn't expecting such responsive input. To be honest, I was wondering how I compared with other new employees, and whether the three appointments I turned in plus the additional five appointments I've made since then was ahead of expectations or only meeting them.
Again, I appreciate the thought you put into your advice. I am now carrying a copy of the email with me and plan to mentally review each point in your outline at the beginning and end of every day to see how I measure up and to insure that I am taking full advantage of it.
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Something like that anyhow. I would then get in touch with that other company immediately. Your new boss is a jerk. It's not going to get better. You were fortunate to get a look at the real nature of the company early on.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 6, 2012 7:29:58 GMT -5
I think this deserves a face to face meeting. Nothing I could put together in an email is going to sound right. My response would be to set a meeting with the manager and discuss your first week performance in person. He's in fucking Indiana - no offence, John, Rob. That explains everything. |
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Post by drlj on Apr 6, 2012 7:36:42 GMT -5
I understand being upset and think a face to face is really important right now.
I have to ask, though, if it is wise to put something like this up on a public site with names being mentioned. Things like this have a way of making themselves known to others who we might not want to be aware of them. While I think the intial issue is something that can be resolved in a face to face meeting, having this get back to a boss could cause more problems.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 6, 2012 7:37:29 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't know what to suggest. I'd consider letting it roll off your shoulders. Or talk to your immediate supervisor and explain things to him/her. And keep at doing what you're doing. The proof is in the pudding. All's well that ends well, in the biz world. It's not a personality contest.
Your boss isn't Miss Congeniality.
Who knows. There is probably all sorts of internal political shit going on in the company. There probably is some political in-fighting going on where somebody thought they need to hire people like yourself for business expansion, but somebody else (this CEO) wants to cut the legs out from under the person with this new program. Or at least put his feet to the fire.
My guess is you're just a pawn in their lovely political landscape.
Stay close to the people who hired you. Do the things that you know you need to do to do a good job. Don't take this personal. It's not. Pretty much ignore it and go about doing what you know you should do.
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Post by omaha on Apr 6, 2012 7:38:40 GMT -5
Hoosiers. Damn.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 7:40:03 GMT -5
Jim,
Remind me to call you next time I get pissed at my boss. Barring a face to face discussion, your suggested e-mail is pretty direct but also very polite.
As for the manager's e-mail, never dish out a threat based upon assumptions or potentially bad information. Rule #1 of being in charge: the initial report is never correct. Always follow up, and in this case, there is no reason this guy or somebody in management couldn't have called.
Sheesh.
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Post by AlanC on Apr 6, 2012 7:47:25 GMT -5
He may be a bully. The guy I bought my company from was one. After I pushed back hard on him one day he never tried to bully me again. Those he could- he did. At some point you will probably have to push back and let him know you are not his chump. Just my $0.02.
Oh and as to this stuff showing up somewhere else somehow. I monitor my web site and it's weird how google accesses it sometimes. Recently I posted a thread about my daughter and I gave some personal observations about her professor. I got paranoid a few minutes later and deleted all references to him. You might want to be careful.... it's a whole 'nother country here.
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 6, 2012 7:51:53 GMT -5
Bob, I don't know the company structure but I'd guess that the CEO really has no idea who you are or how long you've been working and merely looked at a production report and sent you a form letter based on a number in a spreadsheet. I'd suggest talking to your immediate manager about it. Start by asking if you've done something wrong and being a little sheepish about it at least confused since you're new. Your manager should handle it after only 3 days on the job.
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Post by t-bob on Apr 6, 2012 8:18:32 GMT -5
The guy who wrote the email, the CEO, hired me. I'm planning on working today, setting as many appts as possible, plus I have an opportunity to close a sale today. I am not responding to the email, but will follow his suggestions about contacting others at the company. I'll likely call his suggested people soon. after I get some coffee over the gums and into the tum - yum yum. Big yawn...  |
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 6, 2012 8:32:49 GMT -5
Bob, that's fine, I just suspect that what you got was a form letter and for all we know the CEO didn't actually send it. It just looks like a form letter possibly sent routinely by some CEO staffer to anyone on the spreadsheet whose numbers don't equal the standard. I'm guessing it's a mistake but a common one.
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Post by t-bob on Apr 6, 2012 8:43:37 GMT -5
Bob, that's fine, I just suspect that what you got was a form letter and for all we know the CEO didn't actually send it. It just looks like a form letter possibly sent routinely by some CEO staffer to anyone on the spreadsheet whose numbers don't equal the standard. I'm guessing it's a mistake but a common one. Bruce, I did think about that possibility as well. Whoever crafted/wrote that letter and sent it to someone with 4 days on the job is a needle-dicked bugfucking cocksucking douchebag.  And the CEO knows the letter exists. I'm over it, unless it rears its ugly head again. Coffee tastes great... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 8:45:07 GMT -5
Bob, not meaning to meddle here, but just concerned for your safety and reputation and job security, you might want to at least ditch the real names in your post. They are eminently searchable on the Web. Someone connected in some way, possibly a potential client, could easily find this post. Not very good karma.
Just sayin.'
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Post by t-bob on Apr 6, 2012 8:45:50 GMT -5
good idea, done. thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 8:47:37 GMT -5
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And the CEO knows the letter exists. I'm over it, unless it rears its ugly head again. Coffee tastes great...