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Post by Hobson on Jul 13, 2014 14:20:22 GMT -5
For instance I said to a friend that our president couldn't visit a border detention center because the undocumented aliens would applaud and cheer. That's not the kind of photo op that he wants.
Of course, I would never say that here.
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Post by millring on Jul 13, 2014 14:36:14 GMT -5
For instance I said to a friend that our president couldn't visit a border detention center because the undocumented aliens would applaud and cheer. That's not the kind of photo op that he wants. Of course, I would never say that here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 16:00:07 GMT -5
For instance I said to a friend that our president couldn't visit a border detention center because the undocumented aliens would applaud and cheer. That's not the kind of photo op that he wants. Of course, I would never say that here. Or maybe the detainees would be kept in their cells and would not be in a cheering and applauding sort of a mood.
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Post by millring on Jul 13, 2014 16:46:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure they're in cells.
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Post by epaul on Jul 13, 2014 17:00:32 GMT -5
I heard there was a cell of them just up in Fjord Township. There are probably cells being established all over the country. I heard we were going to use them to go after Canada. That's where I'm telling my kids to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 17:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Jul 13, 2014 17:58:44 GMT -5
wow. I bet they're sure rethinking making the trip up here, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 18:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by Doug on Jul 13, 2014 18:47:53 GMT -5
Seems the country is dissolving with out the need of states leaving. The fundamental reason behind any country no matter what political system is to defend the borders. When a country doesn't defend it's borders is it a country?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 19:10:55 GMT -5
There is a surge of unaccompanied Latin American children lately and there may in due course be a fluctuation in the statistics but you seem to be saying that at a time when illegal immigrants have never been deported in greater numbers and there is an ongoing reduction in their presence that this equates to the US no longer being a country. Strange.
To re-iterate,
"In other words, the number of undocumented immigrants remains high, but illegal immigration — the number of new undocumented workers entering the country each year — has fallen close to zero. On a net basis — people entering minus those leaving or being deported — illegal immigration was probably negative between 2007 and 2012."
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Post by Cornflake on Jul 13, 2014 19:17:26 GMT -5
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants have come because our economy has sucked. But when it improves, they'll come again. I've never understood why people want to tolerate illegal immigration. We have laws. No one is welcome to ignore them. And we have too many people already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 19:27:38 GMT -5
I am not cheering the prospect of more illegal immigration, I am booing the unlovely undercurrents and political gamesmanship that are prominent at the moment. It is truly disturbing to hear some of the ugly voices with their language of the "diseased" and malign "invaders". A little perspective about the actual situation is not, IMO uncalled for in light of those disturbing and sometimes less than fully informed voices.
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Post by Cornflake on Jul 13, 2014 19:30:25 GMT -5
Wasn't directed at you, James. We're all tribal and it emerges here, often in an ugly manner. But that's not the real issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 19:32:33 GMT -5
I don't think we are at odds here Don.
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Post by Doug on Jul 13, 2014 19:41:09 GMT -5
How can you have a count of people that aren't seen by the government. There is no way to count illegal immigration. Those detained by the government are like drugs seized, maybe 10% of the total coming in.
So all those numbers don't mean a thing as there is no way to count those coming in. These people are criminals and should be treated as criminals if they are 3 or 93. And the border should be protected by the Army and invasions pushed back by force.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 19:50:24 GMT -5
Shot?
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Post by epaul on Jul 13, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -5
A tenuous estimate is not a fact. Not even if it gets put in a newspaper.
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Post by epaul on Jul 13, 2014 19:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 20:07:06 GMT -5
A measure of obvious and some more slippery anti-Hispanic sentiment being aired in the media does not go unobserved and a little push-back is to be expected.
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Post by theevan on Jul 13, 2014 20:24:31 GMT -5
I'm not so sure we're deporting at that torrid pace...
We're issuing a considerable number of deportation orders.
But actually deport comparatively few of them.
I suppose there are a few that take the order seriously and just obey the order and return. Maybe.
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