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Post by millring on Sept 27, 2016 21:53:44 GMT -5
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Post by lar on Sept 27, 2016 22:39:38 GMT -5
After reading the article I have to ask what happens to these students when they enter the real world and discover that there are no safe spaces? Or that microaggessions abound and they are not necessarily triggered by racism?
It's not hard to imagine one of those college students being asked why he/she is lying in the corner in the fetal position and trembling uncontrollably. The student answers, "I just heard Donald Trump give a speech".
It may be time for the taxpayers who support our state institutions of higher learning to engage in a meaningful dialog with those institutions so as to remind them where the money is coming from and to re-examine what a college/university education ought to be about. With few exceptions college graduates aren't qualified to do anything. Whoever employs them has to provide the training. It makes me wonder why so many companies insist that new employees have a college degree. Now we're teaching them how to avoid being able to cope with the real world.
I'm not saying that everything those courses teach is wrong. But I do detect a degree of overkill. I also noticed that none of the examples of microagression included, "White men can't jump". If I was less acclimated to the world outside my door I might tend to view that as a racially based oversight.
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Post by millring on Sept 28, 2016 5:23:14 GMT -5
After reading the article I have to ask what happens to these students when they enter the real world and discover that there are no safe spaces? Or that microaggessions abound and they are not necessarily triggered by racism? We're deluded if we believe the same people won't use the government to create the same world on the outside. It's already happening. The groundwork is in place. There is such a thing as "hate crimes". And the same folks who brought us such legislation are the same ones expanding the definitions of hate to include "microaggressions". So far they're of an ilk that doesn't believe in capital punishment, but that will change. We are SO screwed.
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 28, 2016 7:26:47 GMT -5
After reading the article I have to ask what happens to these students when they enter the real world and discover that there are no safe spaces? Or that microaggessions abound and they are not necessarily triggered by racism? We're deluded if we believe the same people won't use the government to create the same world on the outside. It's already happening. The groundwork is in place. There is such a thing as "hate crimes". And the same folks who brought us such legislation are the same ones expanding the definitions of hate to include "microaggressions". So far they're of an ilk that doesn't believe in capital punishment, but that will change. We are SO screwed. In a mocking tone, Lydia used the term "triggered feminist" the other day. The kids get it. The backlash is coming. In a lot of ways, it is already here.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 28, 2016 8:12:47 GMT -5
Trump will solve all that.
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Post by theevan on Sept 28, 2016 9:48:25 GMT -5
Trump will solve all that. No way Trump wins (here I go again) but if he did I suppose there's be lots of fetal positioning throughout our land. That, and emigration. Forgive me for quoting another Dreher blog post, but this morning's was too good: Excerpt: Trump, Vows & TreasonThe Blog
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Post by james on Sept 28, 2016 19:31:40 GMT -5
The low key sexist and racist signals should perhaps be more loudly expressed at earlier places of learning such as nursery school, infant and junior school so as not to coddle young people against later education's continuing unpleasant realities.
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Post by Village Idiot on Sept 28, 2016 19:56:49 GMT -5
There will soon come a day when a boy doesn't know what a swirly is anymore. It is all very sad.
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Post by millring on Sept 28, 2016 20:19:58 GMT -5
We'll always have noogies. Nobody will ever take our noogies away from us.
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Post by lar on Sept 28, 2016 20:34:59 GMT -5
I find Sargeant's take on Trump's character interesting. He's obviously strong on Dante and weak on American history. How often did the Native people of this land find their treaties dishonored at the whim of the Federal government? George Washington was famous for his highly inflated expense account. Fast dealing has been practically a national pastime since the beginning.
If Sargeant wanted to do a piece on character, why did he pick Trump out the the crowd?
I take exception to Sargeant's mention of Trump's "tax dodging". I don't think anyone has suggested that. Hillary suggested that Trump hasn't paid any taxes and that's why he won't release his tax returns. Trump's response; "That makes me smart" is a phrase that could be uttered by anyone who has ever taken advantage of the tax laws. Doing so is not illegal. That puts Trump in a pretty large group.
What is odd about Hillary's remark is that she's accusing Trump of doing what lots of people, including Hillary, do. They seek to minimize their tax bite by using the provisions of the tax code. It's fine for her to criticize Trump for not releasing his tax returns. She's right about that. However, she turned the fact that Trump paid no taxes on those returns that have been made public (years ago) into an unfounded accusation that he doesn't pay taxes period. That's inexcusable.
If I were to take Trump to task it would be for his assertion that since he's bought influence with politicians and he knows how to game the system he's the one who's in the best position to stop it. Huh? Is there anyone who does not see Trump as a shameless self-dealer who will do anything in his power to get his way? Why then would anyone think that Trump would dismantle the machinery of his success? It would be counter to his self interests. And as far as I can tell those are the only interests he has.
I really liked this line from Sargeant: "What takes character, in politics, business, or marriage, is to make a vow and keep it, come what may." I wonder where Sergeant and his moralizing were when Bill Clinton was getting it on with Monica. That doesn't mean that Trump shouldn't be taken to task. He should. But to single Trump out, particularly when there are lots of other transgressors that could be named, seems mean-spirited. Just like this whole campaign.
While I'm on my soapbox I'll throw some arrows at a couple of things that Trump has been blamed for that aren't any more important, and certainly no bigger, than a fart in a dust storm.
DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTED THE IRAQ WAR. Where does this come from? As nearly as I can tell it comes from an interview Trump did with Howard Stern. It happened before he became a politician. Stern asked him about it. Trump responded that he wasn't sure and that he guessed he supported the war. As we all know when Trump supports something he does it in big, brazen, Trump style. He doesn't equivocate. He leaves no doubt as to his stance. To me "I guess so" hardly constitutes support. If the pundits want to change their tack and assert that Trump did not initially speak out against the war, I'd be willing to accept that. Otherwise the whole lot of them should be hoist by their own petard until they realize that there is an important place in this society for solid fact-based reporting. What are the chances of that happening?
Hillary did vote in favor of the Iraq war. So did a lot of other people. Hillary has since changed her mind. It seems to me that we are often confronted with things and we make up our minds based on the best information we had at the time. When new information becomes available I think we ought to have the right to change our mind. In Hillary's case the far right doesn't seem to agree with me. As a country are we dumb enough to accept that? It seems that Trump and some of the rest of us are. At least the press seems to have cut her some slack on this one. They ought to do the same for Trump.
THE BIRTHER QUESTION. Geez, I'm so tired of hearing about this. It's not even an issue. We all know that Trump was wrong. We all know that he's not going to admit he was wrong. I understand that the Obamas take this personally. I would too if I were them. Today Michelle Obama made a speech and she suggested that Trump's efforts were designed to cast a pall over her husband's legitimacy and effectiveness. I get her point. But anyone who has ever spent any time looking at Trump and his antics knows that the whole birther thing was just another Trump grand stand play. It wasn't about Obama. It was about Trump. He says outrageous things about lots of people. When it comes right down to it does it have anything to do with Trump's ability to do the job? No.
Here's what it comes down to. It's not that everything Trump says is wrong. It's that Trump is a jerk. That puts a lot of people off and gets in the way of the truth of some, certainly not all, of the things he's saying. That's regrettable. In the end though, I think Sargeant is wrong. He thinks Trump is out to challenge the norms. I disagree. I doubt that Trump ever gives any thought to the norms. I doubt that Trump ever gives any thought to anything except himself and how to get what he wants. I believe it's not any more complicated than that. It's all Trump, all the time.
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Post by drlj on Sept 28, 2016 20:40:59 GMT -5
You guys get all sweaty and worked up over the stupidest stuff. Go outside. Play your guitar. Have a glass of wine. It is true, we are doomed, but not because of this nonsense.
Here is a Soundholian one of those thingies for you. "I never would have guessed you were such a good guitar player because you get all upset over such goofy shit, ya know?"
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Post by Village Idiot on Sept 28, 2016 21:04:39 GMT -5
We'll always have noogies. Nobody will ever take our noogies away from us. Or wet willies.
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Post by lar on Sept 28, 2016 21:12:38 GMT -5
You guys get all sweaty and worked up over the stupidest stuff. Go outside. Play your guitar. Have a glass of wine. It is true, we are doomed, but not because of this nonsense. Here is a Soundholian one of those thingies for you. "I never would have guessed you were such a good guitar player because you get all upset over such goofy shit, ya know?" Words to live by, LJ.
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Post by drlj on Sept 29, 2016 5:27:59 GMT -5
You guys get all sweaty and worked up over the stupidest stuff. Go outside. Play your guitar. Have a glass of wine. It is true, we are doomed, but not because of this nonsense. Here is a Soundholian one of those thingies for you. "I never would have guessed you were such a good guitar player because you get all upset over such goofy shit, ya know?" Words to live by, LJ. I had a philosophy class in college.
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Post by AlanC on Sept 29, 2016 6:08:18 GMT -5
We'll always have noogies. Nobody will ever take our noogies away from us. Or wet willies. I'm pretty sure the PTB have managed to ban "red bellys" at my old school. Where will it end?
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Post by millring on Sept 29, 2016 7:32:48 GMT -5
With restitutional lynchings.
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 29, 2016 10:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by RickW on Sept 29, 2016 11:05:07 GMT -5
After reading the article I have to ask what happens to these students when they enter the real world and discover that there are no safe spaces? Or that microaggessions abound and they are not necessarily triggered by racism? We're deluded if we believe the same people won't use the government to create the same world on the outside. It's already happening. The groundwork is in place. There is such a thing as "hate crimes". And the same folks who brought us such legislation are the same ones expanding the definitions of hate to include "microaggressions". So far they're of an ilk that doesn't believe in capital punishment, but that will change. We are SO screwed. We have hate crime law in Canada. It's pretty much useless. I'm not sure that there has been a single actual hate crime successfully prosecuted, as the definition has to be so incredibly loose as to be unprovable. Lot of parenting problems, too. Coddling kids, going after teachers and institutions because little Johnny is not getting As. Well, maybe little Johnny is neither that smart, or that interested. And again, when they hit the real world, it's a slap in the face.
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Post by majorminor on Sept 29, 2016 11:11:08 GMT -5
I think I liked it better when conflict resolution was flintlocks at 20 paces.
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Post by james on Sept 29, 2016 12:19:34 GMT -5
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