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Post by t-bob on Jul 8, 2018 17:14:28 GMT -5
I try not to think about political.
Here’s a little story or a fracture fable.
Unfortunately our president is more like a bull wrecking havoc in a antique store.
On the door is open and the antique owner is on a vacation.
When he sees his store, he’s going to cry. He’s probably gonna say the word f*** also.
😢
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Post by Marshall on Jul 8, 2018 17:47:27 GMT -5
He's a jerk in so, so, many ways.
But when the North Koreans accuse him of making gangster demands, I have to chuckle.
I'm OK with that.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jul 8, 2018 19:14:32 GMT -5
I'm OK with what he's doing for the economy and the tough stance on trade and tariffs if he can get some better deals from some of these countries.
Bob, he's a bull in a china shop but Mythbusters put a real bull in a china shop set and the bull didn't break anything just carefully walked between the isles. I'm giving it time. Of course, I'm a capitalist so my opinion doesn't count.
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Post by james on Jul 8, 2018 19:38:25 GMT -5
<aisles>
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Post by t-bob on Jul 9, 2018 21:48:10 GMT -5
Back to the political thread
When I started this
This president screwed up everything. Actually not that
it’s just that he doesn’t see what he’s paying attention to things
Then he says ....oh I’ll figure it out then I will figure it out some other time.
He’s like a pyrotechnic or arsonist and he lights matches. He doesn’t even stamp it off.
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Post by timfarney on Jul 10, 2018 7:38:24 GMT -5
Morally, there are a thousand things wrong with Donald Trump. To avoid conflict in our opposition, or to defend our support, we tend to indulge in false equivalency (“they all lie...”), but we really know this isn’t the same. We know if this guy was our boss, we’d be looking for work, if he were our neighbor, we’d keep our kids away from him, never invite him into our home, never walk out of a room and leave our wives or daughters alone with him. But the worst part, for the country, is not that he’s without a moral compass. Its not even that he loves despots and would be one if he could. No, It’s not his moral bankruptcy that is doing the most damage, it’s his incompetence. Donald Trump seems to believe that he’s smart; so smart that he doesn’t need to study, seek the advice of experts, think before he speaks...and the truth is that he is absolutely clueless, and driven completely by the impulses of his own deluded and utterly inadequate mind. Our hope is an opposition majority to keep him tied up in completely justified investigations, to minimize the damage he can do, until he can be removed from office. That will not be pretty, but it is necessary. It won’t be good for the country, but it must be done. Then, maybe, we can begin the healing.  |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 10, 2018 7:56:01 GMT -5
Morally, there are a thousand things wrong with Donald Trump. To avoid conflict in our opposition, or to defend our support, we tend to indulge in false equivalency (“they all lie...”), but we really know this isn’t the same. We know if this guy was our boss, we’d be looking for work, if he were our neighbor, we’d keep our kids away from him, never invite him into our home, never walk out of a room and leave our wives or daughters alone with him. But the worst part, for the country, is not that he’s without a moral compass. Its not even that he loves despots and would be one if he could. No, It’s not his moral bankruptcy that is doing the most damage, it’s his incompetence. Donald Trump seems to believe that he’s smart; so smart that he doesn’t need to study, seek the advice of experts, think before he speaks...and the truth is that he is absolutely clueless, and driven completely by the impulses of his own deluded and utterly inadequate mind. Our hope is an opposition majority to keep him tied up in completely justified investigations, to minimize the damage he can do, until he can be removed from office. That will not be pretty, but it is necessary. It won’t be good for the country, but it must be done. Then, maybe, we can begin the healing. Thanks for the laugh, Tim. I enjoyed that. |
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Post by theevan on Jul 10, 2018 8:08:10 GMT -5
Morally, there are a thousand things wrong with Donald Trump. To avoid conflict in our opposition, or to defend our support, we tend to indulge in false equivalency (“they all lie...”), but we really know this isn’t the same. We know if this guy was our boss, we’d be looking for work, if he were our neighbor, we’d keep our kids away from him, never invite him into our home, never walk out of a room and leave our wives or daughters alone with him. But the worst part, for the country, is not that he’s without a moral compass. Its not even that he loves despots and would be one if he could. No, It’s not his moral bankruptcy that is doing the most damage, it’s his incompetence. Donald Trump seems to believe that he’s smart; so smart that he doesn’t need to study, seek the advice of experts, think before he speaks...and the truth is that he is absolutely clueless, and driven completely by the impulses of his own deluded and utterly inadequate mind. Our hope is an opposition majority to keep him tied up in completely justified investigations, to minimize the damage he can do, until he can be removed from office. That will not be pretty, but it is necessary. It won’t be good for the country, but it must be done. Then, maybe, we can begin the healing. Tim, we need a return to Constitutional limits. The Executive branch (and the judicial, while we're at it) is out of control. No president should have ever had the power we have seen increasingly ceded to them. I'd much prefer a caretaker government than a get-shit-done one. We've jumped the shark. |
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Post by timfarney on Jul 10, 2018 9:37:01 GMT -5
Morally, there are a thousand things wrong with Donald Trump. To avoid conflict in our opposition, or to defend our support, we tend to indulge in false equivalency (“they all lie...”), but we really know this isn’t the same. We know if this guy was our boss, we’d be looking for work, if he were our neighbor, we’d keep our kids away from him, never invite him into our home, never walk out of a room and leave our wives or daughters alone with him. But the worst part, for the country, is not that he’s without a moral compass. Its not even that he loves despots and would be one if he could. No, It’s not his moral bankruptcy that is doing the most damage, it’s his incompetence. Donald Trump seems to believe that he’s smart; so smart that he doesn’t need to study, seek the advice of experts, think before he speaks...and the truth is that he is absolutely clueless, and driven completely by the impulses of his own deluded and utterly inadequate mind. Our hope is an opposition majority to keep him tied up in completely justified investigations, to minimize the damage he can do, until he can be removed from office. That will not be pretty, but it is necessary. It won’t be good for the country, but it must be done. Then, maybe, we can begin the healing. Thanks for the laugh, Tim. I enjoyed that. A substantive response, as always. You’re welcome. |
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Post by timfarney on Jul 10, 2018 9:42:33 GMT -5
Morally, there are a thousand things wrong with Donald Trump. To avoid conflict in our opposition, or to defend our support, we tend to indulge in false equivalency (“they all lie...”), but we really know this isn’t the same. We know if this guy was our boss, we’d be looking for work, if he were our neighbor, we’d keep our kids away from him, never invite him into our home, never walk out of a room and leave our wives or daughters alone with him. But the worst part, for the country, is not that he’s without a moral compass. Its not even that he loves despots and would be one if he could. No, It’s not his moral bankruptcy that is doing the most damage, it’s his incompetence. Donald Trump seems to believe that he’s smart; so smart that he doesn’t need to study, seek the advice of experts, think before he speaks...and the truth is that he is absolutely clueless, and driven completely by the impulses of his own deluded and utterly inadequate mind. Our hope is an opposition majority to keep him tied up in completely justified investigations, to minimize the damage he can do, until he can be removed from office. That will not be pretty, but it is necessary. It won’t be good for the country, but it must be done. Then, maybe, we can begin the healing. Tim, we need a return to Constitutional limits. The Executive branch (and the judicial, while we're at it) is out of control. No president should have ever had the power we have seen increasingly ceded to them. I'd much prefer a caretaker government than a get-shit-done one. We've jumped the shark. I agree. But we can’t do any of that with our current leadership. First things first. And honestly,speaking of priorities, I don’t think we can get anything substantive done before we get private money out of public elections and policy. We desperately need campaign and lobbying reforms. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 10, 2018 10:03:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the laugh, Tim. I enjoyed that. A substantive response, as always. You’re welcome. A blurb claiming to know what "we" are thinking (must be psychic best as I can tell) doesn't deserve a substantive response. A waste of my time. But it is entertaining. |
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Post by timfarney on Jul 10, 2018 16:06:38 GMT -5
A substantive response, as always. You’re welcome. A blurb claiming to know what "we" are thinking (must be psychic best as I can tell) doesn't deserve a substantive response. A waste of my time. But it is entertaining. Fair enough. You could embrace his morals, trust your livelihood to his loyalty. You could take him at his word. You could trust him with your teenage daughters. It could happen. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 10, 2018 20:21:52 GMT -5
A blurb claiming to know what "we" are thinking (must be psychic best as I can tell) doesn't deserve a substantive response. A waste of my time. But it is entertaining. Fair enough. You could embrace his morals, trust your livelihood to his loyalty. You could take him at his word. You could trust him with your teenage daughters. It could happen. Sure. He knows where I live. I submitted my resume to his administration when he was elected and I'd still be honored to serve if called. If he calls, he could come out and we could introduce him to the neighborhood, run down to MacDonalds and grab eats, and have a grand old time. Hell, I'd even invite you and the rest of the Soundhole over. It would be soooo cool. |
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Post by timfarney on Jul 11, 2018 5:25:08 GMT -5
Fair enough. You could embrace his morals, trust your livelihood to his loyalty. You could take him at his word. You could trust him with your teenage daughters. It could happen. Sure. He knows where I live. I submitted my resume to his administration when he was elected and I'd still be honored to serve if called. If he calls, he could come out and we could introduce him to the neighborhood, run down to MacDonalds and grab eats, and have a grand old time. Hell, I'd even invite you and the rest of the Soundhole over. It would be soooo cool. No thanks. I can probably find a sociopath right here in the neighborhood. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 11, 2018 7:26:41 GMT -5
Sure. He knows where I live. I submitted my resume to his administration when he was elected and I'd still be honored to serve if called. If he calls, he could come out and we could introduce him to the neighborhood, run down to MacDonalds and grab eats, and have a grand old time. Hell, I'd even invite you and the rest of the Soundhole over. It would be soooo cool. No thanks. I can probably find a sociopath right here in the neighborhood. Yeah, there's a lot of us. We won the last election that way. Boogedy boogedy.... Be afraid, be very afraid..... |
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Post by millring on Jul 11, 2018 8:10:05 GMT -5
It isn't the leadership that is going to lead us back to constitutionally limited government. Such top down leadership is how we got where we are.
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Post by millring on Jul 11, 2018 8:14:07 GMT -5
I take that back. Our leadership is who we are. And we're not going to change any time soon.
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Post by Marshall on Jul 11, 2018 9:10:47 GMT -5
I'm continually confused by why liberals are so enamored with Mueller. He does seem to be a decent intelligent man. But he's a Republican appointed council investigating a Republican President. Where the heck does everybody think this is going? ? ? ? That being said, Trump is so freaking transparent I can't stand it. All his bluster about drain the swamp; changing the Supreme Court; Roe v Wade and all. So what does he do? He pulls somebody off the sidelines from of the DC establishment who has gone on record saying a sitting president should not be investigated. Yeah right. The best man for the job. Bullshit. He's first and foremost protecting his own large ass. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 11, 2018 12:40:52 GMT -5
It isn't the leadership that is going to lead us back to constitutionally limited government. Such top down leadership is how we got where we are. That's the great thing about Trump, although you'd never be able to figure it out from the DC Establishment blowhards. Trump came in with a plan to do just that. And when you think about it, it probably takes an outsider like Trump (not beholden to DC orthodoxy and funding) to do it. And when you take that, along with beating 17 DC establishment Republicans for the nomination and THE DC Establishment Democrat to get there, he probably deserves a fair hearing. Simply look at what he's done. Destroyed all the leftover Obama crap that Barry couldn't nail down adequately during his term. Lowered taxes (Yeah, yeah, he's invited economic disaster. Like anyone here would know that). Came in with a well thought out plan to destroy CO2 regulation (yeah, yeah, these idiots haven't even figured out the game much less prepared at all to meet the challenge). And he's setting up the SC with a makeup that will shift the balance of power for the next 3 decades. Oh, he's way ahead of the game, no matter what the amateur political cranks who get their IQ preprocessed and wrapped in newspaper think. Trump snuck up on the Establishment who's too blind to their own conceits to admit they may be wrong. Oh well, that's the price they pay. |
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Post by fauxmaha on Jul 11, 2018 12:44:21 GMT -5
I take that back. Our leadership is who we are. And we're not going to change any time soon. "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken |
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