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Post by Marshall on May 26, 2020 17:13:54 GMT -5
Great work. You’re a walking commercial for the ToneDexter.
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Post by Shannon on May 26, 2020 18:39:55 GMT -5
Great work. You’re a walking commercial for the ToneDexter. Wish I could get an endorsement deal. I could use another one of those things. |
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Post by Hobson on May 26, 2020 18:44:13 GMT -5
Shannon, great job! Write more songs.
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Post by gbacklin on May 26, 2020 19:16:34 GMT -5
... I did everything in 24-bit until the final mixdown, which is in CD-standard 16-bit 44.1K... Just a little thing that I do for digital recording. I always record everything at 96 kHz and 24 bit. the 96 is the number of digital samples that are taken and the 24 bit is the digital sized of the actual word. (which you did say you did 24 bit) Now when I bring sown to 44.1 kHz and 16 bit, if you have some kind of Dither in Cubase, then use it. The reason why is mathematical on digital words. going from a 24 bit word to 16 without dither, truncates (chops off) the extra bits. Dither does a little logic when reducing the bit size. I use POW-r Dither. From the manual "The POW-r Dither plug-in provides three types of noise shaping, each with its own characteris- tics. Try each noise shaping type and choose the one that adds the least amount of coloration to the audio being processed. Type 1 Has the flattest frequency spectrum in the audible range of frequencies, modulating and accumulating the dither noise just below the Nyquist frequency. Recommended for less stereophonically complex material such as solo instrument recordings. Type 2 Has a psychoacoustically optimized low order noise shaping curve. Recommended for material of greater stereophonic complexity. Type 3 Has a psychoacoustically optimized high order noise shaping curve. Recommended for full-spectrum, wide-stereo field material." Now for the non technical side of things. Its really a nice song, the only thing it needs is your custom guitar that you will be building soon !!! |
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Post by RickW on May 26, 2020 19:35:06 GMT -5
Shannon, that’s a great song. Love the melody and the lyrics. You’ve got quite the range on your voice, and it sounded very sweet and fine; what mic did you use?
The acoustic guitar sounded perfect. Bass, most folks, unless they’re uber serious bass player, will record direct. it’s easier, sounds good. I don’t always even put mine through a sim, just record it straight, compress it, eq it.
I’d disagree with Bill on bending notes. It’s whatever works for the song. I think it’s more the tone wasn’t right, I’m not sure you want any overdrive/distortion on that.
Keep going. It’s fun stuff.
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Post by Marty on May 26, 2020 20:22:31 GMT -5
A tune worthy of Folgelberg or Taylor. Well done Shannon.
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Post by Shannon on May 26, 2020 20:57:44 GMT -5
Once again, thanks to all of you for your comments, both technical and otherwise.
Gene, I saved all the raw tracks so I could go back and play with them. I’m just learning Cubase, and I only have the LE version. One thing I’m learning is that Audacity may very well be all I need and more for the simple arrangements I do. It turns out that Cubase LE doesn’t have a dithering plugin; it just truncates the file when going to 16 bit from 24. Audacity, on the other hand, automatically applies dithering when exporting to a lower bit rate, unless you tell it not to. It even offers 3 different dithering shapes. I think I may just import my raw tracks into Audacity, mix and process, and see how it sounds.
Rick, I think you are right about the overdrive. When I get a chance, I’ll go back and try to record a new solo line.
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Post by gbacklin on May 27, 2020 2:11:30 GMT -5
Once again, thanks to all of you for your comments, both technical and otherwise. Gene, I saved all the raw tracks so I could go back and play with them. I’m just learning Cubase, and I only have the LE version. One thing I’m learning is that Audacity may very well be all I need and more for the simple arrangements I do. It turns out that Cubase LE doesn’t have a dithering plugin; it just truncates the file when going to 16 bit from 24. Audacity, on the other hand, automatically applies dithering when exporting to a lower bit rate, unless you tell it not to. It even offers 3 different dithering shapes. I think I may just import my raw tracks into Audacity, mix and process, and see how it sounds... When I first got into digital recording Digidesign had a free version of Pro Tools and I learned for free. It allowed me quite an impressive selection of plugins to work and learn with. I was also able to send my entire sessions to folks in the industry to mentor me along the way with their professional versions. Well over the years Digidesign dropped the free version. Big mistake in my opinion. Well Avid bought Digidesign a number of years ago and they brought back a free version. Your audio can be imported into it and should have a good assortment of plugins and I have a feeling it also should have a dither. I may try to download it myself just to see what it gives you. I have an older full version because I never had to upgrade as it does all that I need it to do and I have an old laptop that it works just fine as it did when I purchased the software years ago. Here is a link if you want to check it out. AvidForget it  I just went there to see and after I logged in and tried to download it, it requires an iLok account. Not the same process years ago, too complicated. Audacity will work out just fine. It is a good piece of software. So in the words of Roseanne Roseannadanna, "Never mind" |
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Post by howard lee on May 27, 2020 7:31:28 GMT -5
Thanks, guys! I appreciate the kind comments! I tried to write songs when I was a teenager, and they were really bad. Of course, I was also getting into a bunch of great songwriters, and I eventually decided the world didn't need any of my bad songs when there are so many good songs out there already. So I gave up songwriting. Over the years, I would jot down an idea or two, in case I decided to try again. Lately, I've felt like maybe I could try to write again and see how it goes. The whole effort may go down in flames again, but I'm enjoying it for the moment. Most young people, unless they have a gift like James Joyce had (whose collection of short stories, "Dubliners," was published when he was just 22) don't always have a mature and developed voice—nor do they always know how to say what they want to say. Sometimes it takes years of living, experiencing, and observing before that voice can take shape. This is the main reason my young aspirations of becoming a novelist were dashed.
You have lived, experienced, and seen a lot since those days, Shannon. As a local doctor, I'd wager you could write an entire album of songs about the patients in your town whom you have treated over the years, their stories, characters—a sort of fictional/biographical work. You could call it "Sougahatchee Creek Anthology."
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Post by Shannon on May 27, 2020 12:46:57 GMT -5
Once again, thanks to all of you for your comments, both technical and otherwise. Gene, I saved all the raw tracks so I could go back and play with them. I’m just learning Cubase, and I only have the LE version. One thing I’m learning is that Audacity may very well be all I need and more for the simple arrangements I do. It turns out that Cubase LE doesn’t have a dithering plugin; it just truncates the file when going to 16 bit from 24. Audacity, on the other hand, automatically applies dithering when exporting to a lower bit rate, unless you tell it not to. It even offers 3 different dithering shapes. I think I may just import my raw tracks into Audacity, mix and process, and see how it sounds... When I first got into digital recording Digidesign had a free version of Pro Tools and I learned for free. It allowed me quite an impressive selection of plugins to work and learn with. I was also able to send my entire sessions to folks in the industry to mentor me along the way with their professional versions. Well over the years Digidesign dropped the free version. Big mistake in my opinion. Well Avid bought Digidesign a number of years ago and they brought back a free version. Your audio can be imported into it and should have a good assortment of plugins and I have a feeling it also should have a dither. I may try to download it myself just to see what it gives you. I have an older full version because I never had to upgrade as it does all that I need it to do and I have an old laptop that it works just fine as it did when I purchased the software years ago. Here is a link if you want to check it out. AvidForget it I just went there to see and after I logged in and tried to download it, it requires an iLok account. Not the same process years ago, too complicated. Audacity will work out just fine. It is a good piece of software. So in the words of Roseanne Roseannadanna, "Never mind" I just spent most of my lunch break playing with the DAW program Reaper. Are you familiar with it? It appears to be able to do much more than the Cubase LE setup, and is easier for me to navigate, too. A license for the whole thing is only $60. I think it can easily take the place of Audacity and Cubase combined, especially for the sort of stuff I will do. You've gotta love a company that will allow you to use their program without limitations for 60 days for free! |
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May 27, 2020 17:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by gbacklin on May 27, 2020 17:25:14 GMT -5
When I first got into digital recording Digidesign had a free version of Pro Tools and I learned for free. It allowed me quite an impressive selection of plugins to work and learn with. I was also able to send my entire sessions to folks in the industry to mentor me along the way with their professional versions. Well over the years Digidesign dropped the free version. Big mistake in my opinion. Well Avid bought Digidesign a number of years ago and they brought back a free version. Your audio can be imported into it and should have a good assortment of plugins and I have a feeling it also should have a dither. I may try to download it myself just to see what it gives you. I have an older full version because I never had to upgrade as it does all that I need it to do and I have an old laptop that it works just fine as it did when I purchased the software years ago. Here is a link if you want to check it out. AvidForget it I just went there to see and after I logged in and tried to download it, it requires an iLok account. Not the same process years ago, too complicated. Audacity will work out just fine. It is a good piece of software. So in the words of Roseanne Roseannadanna, "Never mind" I just spent most of my lunch break playing with the DAW program Reaper. Are you familiar with it? It appears to be able to do much more than the Cubase LE setup, and is easier for me to navigate, too. A license for the whole thing is only $60. I think it can easily take the place of Audacity and Cubase combined, especially for the sort of stuff I will do. You've gotta love a company that will allow you to use their program without limitations for 60 days for free! 60 days free, it’s a no brainer. The key to any application is that you can work with it and not have it take more effort than the music itself. It supports VST plugins which you can find all over the place if you decide to purchase it. |
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In My Town
May 28, 2020 12:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on May 28, 2020 12:18:50 GMT -5
I love it when you talk technical.  I used Audacity for adding a bass guitar and harmony to a home-made video. I was impressed with Audacity’s reverb FX. Very simple to use and customize. Sounded quite nice. I’ll have to look into Reaper. |
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I just went there to see and after I logged in and tried to download it, it requires an iLok account. Not the same process years ago, too complicated. Audacity will work out just fine. It is a good piece of software.
I used Audacity for adding a bass guitar and harmony to a home-made video. I was impressed with Audacity’s reverb FX. Very simple to use and customize. Sounded quite nice.