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Post by PaulKay on Nov 21, 2021 13:21:45 GMT -5
Okay. For my point, that doesn't matter. The jury said he was clearly justified to shoot, but that isn't my point. Whether he likes it or not, this case laid bare the serious flaws in current laws. You're guilty on all counts, not Rittenhouse. The trial proved that the laws work as they should. Additionally, the guy who was shot but lived was a felon with a Glock. He should be back in prison but your side probably won't let that happen. My side? Wow, that got personal fast. It does help remind me why I don’t bother posting here anymore. |
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Post by PaulKay on Nov 21, 2021 13:28:06 GMT -5
The focus of all of this should really be on the Self Defense and Open Carry laws in the state of Wisconsin (and Arizona, Texas, Florida). These laws taken together, made clear by these jury rulings , do in fact make vigilantism legal (only if you are the right color however). Where does "only if you are the right color" come from? Where does "these jury rulings" come from? I can't think of any other trial similar to the Kenosha case off the top of my head, so I don't know what other trials of this type you are referring to and how race would have been involved. What colors were involved the Rittenhouse trial? How have you determined there was a right or wrong color in the Kenosha case without resorting to making up a color that wasn't there and then making up a result that wasn't reached? Have there been other trials in which a person claiming to be protecting a business during a mass protest/riot/disorder situation killed someone in what was claimed to be self defense? Was there a trial somewhere where a young black was guarding a business during a protest/riot/disorder situation who when confronted violently by the protesters shot one in what he claimed was self defense? The only somewhat similar case situation I can come up with, protecting property during a protest, was that white couple in the fancy enclave who pointed their guns at some protesters they claimed were threatening their house. The jury ruled against them. Other than that, I don't know trials you are referring to and how they can be compared and connected to the Rittenehouse trial. Yes, you are right that the race bias delineation has yet to be shown in court. The bias isn’t directly written into the Open Carry law, but it’s there in the subjectivity of the malicious intent wording. |
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Post by gbacklin on Nov 21, 2021 14:49:24 GMT -5
Where does "only if you are the right color" come from? Where does "these jury rulings" come from? I can't think of any other trial similar to the Kenosha case off the top of my head, so I don't know what other trials of this type you are referring to and how race would have been involved. What colors were involved the Rittenhouse trial? How have you determined there was a right or wrong color in the Kenosha case without resorting to making up a color that wasn't there and then making up a result that wasn't reached? Have there been other trials in which a person claiming to be protecting a business during a mass protest/riot/disorder situation killed someone in what was claimed to be self defense? Was there a trial somewhere where a young black was guarding a business during a protest/riot/disorder situation who when confronted violently by the protesters shot one in what he claimed was self defense? The only somewhat similar case situation I can come up with, protecting property during a protest, was that white couple in the fancy enclave who pointed their guns at some protesters they claimed were threatening their house. The jury ruled against them. Other than that, I don't know trials you are referring to and how they can be compared and connected to the Rittenehouse trial. Yes, you are right that the race bias delineation has yet to be shown in court. The bias isn’t directly written into the Open Carry law, but it’s there in the subjectivity of the malicious intent wording. Not always is there color bias linkWe may or may not agree with a final outcome, but we still have the ”due process” which is vital. |
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 21, 2021 15:35:33 GMT -5
Ghislane?? Oh, my neighbor just down the street. She does seem to attract a lot of attention.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 21, 2021 15:47:13 GMT -5
You're guilty on all counts, not Rittenhouse. The trial proved that the laws work as they should. Additionally, the guy who was shot but lived was a felon with a Glock. He should be back in prison but your side probably won't let that happen. My side? Wow, that got personal fast. It does help remind me why I don’t bother posting here anymore. Your side being those who still believe Rittenhouse did something illegal and the lies they're still telling about him like he's a White Supremacist who illegally took a gun across state lines to a place where he didn't live to shoot people. Even the basis for the riot is being covered with an ongoing lie that the black guy that was shit was killed. It has all been lies and the jury figured it out that Rittenhouse didn't do anything illegal, it really was self defense. Even after the verdict the lies went on for days. |
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 21, 2021 15:50:56 GMT -5
I agree with you on the Atlanta trial. Hopefully the justice system works like it's supposed to again. But the trial to watch is the Ghislaine Maxwell trial which is unforetuneatly untelevised. I'm guessing the Clintons and other powerful liberals are sweating bullets over that. "Sweating" bullets? That's how we always rolled in Detroit. |
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 21, 2021 15:52:55 GMT -5
Ghislane?? Oh, my neighbor just down the street. She does seem to attract a lot of attention. So did you enjoy your trips to Epstein's Island of little girl sex slaves? |
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 21, 2021 15:56:52 GMT -5
Where does "only if you are the right color" come from? Where does "these jury rulings" come from? I can't think of any other trial similar to the Kenosha case off the top of my head, so I don't know what other trials of this type you are referring to and how race would have been involved. What colors were involved the Rittenhouse trial? How have you determined there was a right or wrong color in the Kenosha case without resorting to making up a color that wasn't there and then making up a result that wasn't reached? Have there been other trials in which a person claiming to be protecting a business during a mass protest/riot/disorder situation killed someone in what was claimed to be self defense? Was there a trial somewhere where a young black was guarding a business during a protest/riot/disorder situation who when confronted violently by the protesters shot one in what he claimed was self defense? The only somewhat similar case situation I can come up with, protecting property during a protest, was that white couple in the fancy enclave who pointed their guns at some protesters they claimed were threatening their house. The jury ruled against them. Other than that, I don't know trials you are referring to and how they can be compared and connected to the Rittenehouse trial. Yes, you are right that the race bias delineation has yet to be shown in court. The bias isn’t directly written into the Open Carry law, but it’s there in the subjectivity of the malicious intent wording. Yeah, a lot of race bias in a white kid shooting 3 white guys. Please. |
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 21, 2021 16:35:43 GMT -5
Ghislane?? Oh, my neighbor just down the street. She does seem to attract a lot of attention. So did you enjoy your trips to Epstein's Island of little girl sex slaves? Nope. |
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Post by epaul on Nov 21, 2021 16:37:34 GMT -5
Ghislane?? Oh, my neighbor just down the street. She does seem to attract a lot of attention. Gisele Bündchen is Tom Brady's super model wife and a celebrity in both New England and super model starved North Dakota. Doc used a humor technique I am personally fond of, the deliberate confusion of a name/term. It is referred to as "the deliberate confusion of a name/term to create a humorous result" technique. www.humortechniques.com |
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Post by jdd2 on Nov 21, 2021 17:16:22 GMT -5
I wonder if Gillian would sing about that.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 21, 2021 18:03:07 GMT -5
Ghislane?? Oh, my neighbor just down the street. She does seem to attract a lot of attention. Gisele Bündchen is Tom Brady's super model wife and a celebrity in both New England and super model starved North Dakota. Doc used a humor technique I am personally fond of, the deliberate confusion of a name/term. It is referred to as "the deliberate confusion of a name/term to create a humorous result" technique. www.humortechniques.comSo Doc now lives in Tampa Bay? |
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 21, 2021 18:50:20 GMT -5
Gisele Bündchen is Tom Brady's super model wife and a celebrity in both New England and super model starved North Dakota. Doc used a humor technique I am personally fond of, the deliberate confusion of a name/term. It is referred to as "the deliberate confusion of a name/term to create a humorous result" technique. www.humortechniques.comSo Doc now lives in Tampa Bay? No, no, no. Not Tom's gurl, Epstein's. Live 3 blocks from me. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 21, 2021 18:57:57 GMT -5
So Doc now lives in Tampa Bay? No, no, no. Not Tom's gurl, Epstein's. Live 3 blocks from me. When did New Hampshire get "Blocks"? I only remember long winding roads. |
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Post by Tamarack on Nov 21, 2021 19:45:56 GMT -5
BULLSHIT
I daresay that no one on this forum supported throwing rocks and bottles, spray-painting buildings, or assaulting police officers. Perhaps many here supported the right to protest the treatment of black people by police, in light of the murder of George Floyd and the murders and assaults of other black men (some of whom were shot while specifically obeying the instructions of police officers).
It is also quite possible for peaceful protesters and violent assholes to be present in near proximity. This was certainly the case in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Nonetheless, tarring wide swaths of people with the same broad brush is insulting.
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 21, 2021 19:52:01 GMT -5
"[T]arring wide swaths of people with the same broad brush is insulting." Yes, very, but also very common here.
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Post by PaulKay on Nov 21, 2021 20:00:38 GMT -5
"[T]arring wide swaths of people with the same broad brush is insulting." Yes, very, but also very common here. So be it. But I’m out of here. |
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 21, 2021 20:09:16 GMT -5
Sorry to hear it, PaulKay.
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Post by millring on Nov 21, 2021 20:29:01 GMT -5
A year of riots that were described as peaceful protests, and then one riot happens in DC, and suddenly the very ones who couldn't bring themselves to admit there even were riots all year suddenly leapfrogged immediately over "riot" to "insurrection".
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 21, 2021 20:36:53 GMT -5
A year of riots that were described as peaceful protests, and then one riot happens in DC, and suddenly the very ones who couldn't bring themselves to admit there even were riots all year suddenly leapfrogged immediately over "riot" to "insurrection". It's a huge exaggeration to call January 6 even a riot. |
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