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Post by howard lee on Jan 12, 2024 7:34:51 GMT -5
Paul, if you're still reading in this thread, I would like to clarify that Beyond Burger is not something my daughter eats constantly, nor every day. She eschews meat for a number of reasons, even though she was previously a happy carnivore. Once in a while she craves the flavor and texture of beef, so this is a fair compromise. Normally, she eats a reasonably balanced diet that includes green vegetables, rice, quinoa, fish (such as my miso-glazed salmon—to die for), cheese, fruit, eggs, oatmeal, pasta, and bread, for example. Sometimes she has dessert.
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Post by Hobson on Jan 12, 2024 8:56:42 GMT -5
I've tried a couple kinds of meatless sausage products from hotel breakfast buffets. Not bad, but I tend to stay away from processed foods in general. We are omnivores. We eat meat at dinner probably 5 times a week. It is more likely to be fish or poultry than red meat. We can also make a meal of grilled veggies and have a couple of eggplant dishes that we make. Quiche or other egg dishes or pasta Alfredo may be on the menu. A couple of nights ago we had whole wheat pasta with sun dried tomatoes and fresh basil as our main course. We very very rarely have meat of any kind outside of dinner.
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Post by drlj on Jan 12, 2024 9:07:36 GMT -5
Sweet Substitute by Jelly Roll Morton. I learned it from watching Dave Van Ronk.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 12, 2024 9:19:48 GMT -5
I like the Impossible Burger.
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Post by Marty on Jan 12, 2024 9:27:53 GMT -5
Kaiah is pescetarian and we keep a few thing in the freezer for her. I tried the stuff she likes, NO! WTF is that? Impossible burger is fine but as stated by others WHY?
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Post by howard lee on Jan 12, 2024 9:34:54 GMT -5
Kaiah is pescetarian and we keep a few thing in the freezer for her. I tried the stuff she likes, NO! WTF is that? Impossible burger is fine but as stated by others WHY?
Beyond Burger is better.
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Post by majorminor on Jan 12, 2024 9:48:16 GMT -5
This thread had me thinking back to my childhood and the choices I had regarding the household menu. Oh yeah, that's right: "You'll eat what's in front of you and like it or go to bed hungry!". I don't know if it's a bad thing or a good thing but it's interesting to observe how much more "kid centric" we've become over the last 40 years.
Howard - not being critical or anything - just observing on a more macro level.
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Post by Marty on Jan 12, 2024 10:04:42 GMT -5
Anybody remember Loma Linda foods? Horrid, but they're still around.
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Post by epaul on Jan 12, 2024 10:24:26 GMT -5
"Check the sodium levels before you fall in love with this kind of stuff. In a lot of cases it's not meat, but it is a lot of salt. Which is the real enemy." Not for me, Todd. Low sodium is what got me hospitalized last year. Neither wife nor son have been advised to reduce the sodium they consume. As a practical matter, my wife under-salts everything anyway. [two years ago] After an onset of severe headaches and a brief pass out at the doctor's office, we discovered Charlene's sodium levels had gotten dangerously low. A daily regimen of heavy duty salt tablet put the ship back on course. She still takes salt tablets, at greatly reduced level, to maintain. My recent blood work showed my sodium levels to be fairly deep in the lower regions of normal. If I stopped eating bacon and salted peanuts, who knows what terrible things could happen to me and my sodium level? Bottom line, you don't know if you are getting too much or too little sodium from the newspaper or TV. (or iron or B12 or ? for that matter. Get the bloodwork done to find out next physical. Nutrient shortages (like sodium and iron) don't show up until they REALLY show up.
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Post by epaul on Jan 12, 2024 10:26:09 GMT -5
Paul, if you're still reading in this thread, I would like to clarify that Beyond Burger is not something my daughter eats constantly, nor every day. She eschews meat for a number of reasons, even though she was previously a happy carnivore. Once in a while she craves the flavor and texture of beef, so this is a fair compromise. Normally, she eats a reasonably balanced diet that includes green vegetables, rice, quinoa, fish (such as my miso-glazed salmon—to die for), cheese, fruit, eggs, oatmeal, pasta, and bread, for example. Sometimes she has dessert. Your daughter is smart and is in good hands. I'm not at all worried about her, it's LJ I'm concerned about. Deeply concerned.
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Post by epaul on Jan 12, 2024 10:33:43 GMT -5
But, Todd's point stands. Don't assume meatless sausages and such are healthier than the real ones. A lot of stuff goes into a soybean paste before it comes out tasting like a hamburger or sausage link.
(but, there are good veggie patties to be found that do fry up and make a good (somewhat dry unless cooked in lots of butter) burger-like sandwich. Check the label.
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Post by drlj on Jan 12, 2024 11:21:38 GMT -5
Paul, if you're still reading in this thread, I would like to clarify that Beyond Burger is not something my daughter eats constantly, nor every day. She eschews meat for a number of reasons, even though she was previously a happy carnivore. Once in a while she craves the flavor and texture of beef, so this is a fair compromise. Normally, she eats a reasonably balanced diet that includes green vegetables, rice, quinoa, fish (such as my miso-glazed salmon—to die for), cheese, fruit, eggs, oatmeal, pasta, and bread, for example. Sometimes she has dessert. Your daughter is smart and is in good hands. I'm not at all worried about her, it's LJ I'm concerned about. Deeply concerned. Contribute to the “Help LJ Stay Cool Fund” through direct deposit or payroll deduction and leave your worries on your doorstep. You can also mail a check or cash.
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Post by howard lee on Jan 13, 2024 9:01:38 GMT -5
This thread had me thinking back to my childhood and the choices I had regarding the household menu. Oh yeah, that's right: "You'll eat what's in front of you and like it or go to bed hungry!". I don't know if it's a bad thing or a good thing but it's interesting to observe how much more "kid centric" we've become over the last 40 years. Howard - not being critical or anything - just observing on a more macro level.
We are most definitely and noticeably more accommodating to our daughter and my son than my parents were with me. I had the same deal as my generation, mostly, compelled to sit at the table until my plate was clean, dressing a certain way—and haircuts!—behaving a certain way when company came over, scheduled times for doing homework (so as not to leave it for the last minute), keeping my bedroom tidy, taking out the garbage, mowing the lawn, etc.
I agree that kids today are visibly overindulged and given a great deal of autonomy. But I am still not going to force my 17-year-old daughter to eat beef. 🙂
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Post by Marshall on Jan 13, 2024 9:33:25 GMT -5
Kaiah is pescetarian and we keep a few thing in the freezer for her. I tried the stuff she likes, NO! WTF is that? Impossible burger is fine but as stated by others WHY? Beyond Burger is better.
But do they have a drive-up window?
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Post by millring on Jan 13, 2024 10:25:24 GMT -5
This thread had me thinking back to my childhood and the choices I had regarding the household menu. Oh yeah, that's right: "You'll eat what's in front of you and like it or go to bed hungry!". I don't know if it's a bad thing or a good thing but it's interesting to observe how much more "kid centric" we've become over the last 40 years. Howard - not being critical or anything - just observing on a more macro level. It's not just generational. Culture wide people "don't eat....". Whether it's allergies ,or preferences, or lifestyles, people "don't eat...". We used to entertain quite a bit. No more. It's awkward. You don't dare assume a menu for your guests. They are very likely to say "I don't eat .."
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Post by howard lee on Jan 13, 2024 10:39:28 GMT -5
But do they have a drive-up window?
Seriously?
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Post by Cornflake on Jan 13, 2024 10:48:19 GMT -5
"After an onset of severe headaches and a brief pass out at the doctor's office, we discovered Charlene's sodium levels had gotten dangerously low. A daily regimen of heavy duty salt tablet put the ship back on course. She still takes salt tablets, at greatly reduced level, to maintain."
I'm glad it's under control, epaul.
I've had annual physicals ever since I was about 40. Bloodwork was always done and I always had slightly low sodium. Normal is 140-150, I think. I'd always be at 138-139. No problems resulted until last year, when the second time I was taken to the ER my sodium level was 111 and I wound up in the ICU. Controlling sodium for me has been purely through reduced fluid intake. But it's also been made clear that I shouldn't try to reduce my salt intake.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 13, 2024 11:34:54 GMT -5
But do they have a drive-up window? Seriously?
I’ve never been serious a day in my life.
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Post by epaul on Jan 13, 2024 12:32:54 GMT -5
It's not just generational. Culture wide people "don't eat....". Whether it's allergies ,or preferences, or lifestyles, people "don't eat...". We used to entertain quite a bit. No more. It's awkward. You don't dare assume a menu for your guests. They are very likely to say "I don't eat .." Invite me over. I eat anything and everything. Well, except sushi. You would never serve a guest sushi, would you?
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Post by howard lee on Jan 13, 2024 13:23:27 GMT -5
It's not just generational. Culture wide people "don't eat....". Whether it's allergies ,or preferences, or lifestyles, people "don't eat...". We used to entertain quite a bit. No more. It's awkward. You don't dare assume a menu for your guests. They are very likely to say "I don't eat .." Invite me over. I eat anything and everything. Well, except sushi. You would never serve a guest sushi, would you?
millring's wife is one of the best chefs (and most modest about it) in Indiana. I speak from experience.
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