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Post by John B on Jul 2, 2024 15:20:18 GMT -5
I believe it's complicated. I think there are conscientious historians in every generation. But historians who didn't live in the time they are analyzing are at a disadvantage. Obviously. Additionally, the better historians may or may not be read. We are currently going through a particularly suspect time in academia where history is only accepted if it fits a preconceived narrative. Of course, the academics who are doing that would insist that they are doing so to correct a previous academic world that only accepted history if it fit a particular narrative.....and on and on and on. I've lately been on a bit of a jag following the story line of how the current church came to distrust the very history upon which it was built. In utter embarrassment, it folded almost immediately under the first academic pressure that challenged it -- never even realizing the equally credentialed challenges to those challenges was just around the next corner. And so on and so on and so on. Ideas are the most powerful force on earth. And writing is how mankind harnesses and unleashes that power. Right now the pen has never had such easy and willing access to the additional power to deceive. And the very best, most effective deception is the one that contains the most truth. OK, it's me  Thanks for the additional commentary. |
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Post by theevan on Jul 2, 2024 15:43:52 GMT -5
"And Trump is another place altogether, neither D nor R." I can understand why you say that, Evan. But here, at least, the Republican Party has become the party of Trump. The former president of the State Senate, Republican Rusty Bowers, declined a request by Trump and Giuliani to override the election result. As a result he was defeated in the next primary. Our country recorder, Republican Steven Richer, energetically defended the accuracy of the 2020 election results. The vice-chair of the state party recently called for Richer to be lynched. He'll very likely get defeated in the upcoming primary. As a practical matter "R" has been redefined. Largely true. |
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Post by Marshall on Jul 2, 2024 18:35:25 GMT -5
From what I heard the Supremes just stated the obvious; the POTUS is immune for acts in carrying out his official duties. But not for things outside of that. Determining what are acts inside and outside of those duties are yet to be resolved.
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Post by howard lee on Jul 2, 2024 18:59:21 GMT -5
From what I heard the Supremes just stated the obvious; the POTUS is immune for acts in carrying out his official duties. But not for things outside of that. Determining what are acts inside and outside of those duties are yet to be resolved.
And we all know how that's going to go with this particular SC.
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Post by epaul on Jul 2, 2024 19:18:44 GMT -5
The Supremes asked the lower court (or courts) that handled the case before them to work on those details.
The actual settling and clarification of those details might take many years and many court cases. It won't be dumped out in a month complete in a tidy manual. And despite their best efforts, the this/that details won't be settled by the press or commentators or political spinners. It will be court case by court case over a period of years.
The only thing clear is that Trump's own Federal trial won't be until after the election, and given the slow pace of everything else in this Trump circus, that was likely to be the case anyway. With appeals added to the mix, a certainty.
If Trump wins the election, his attorney general will dismiss it all or it will disappear by some other method. If Trump loses, well, then it will be interesting. And some of the questions about official and personal will get answered.
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Post by james on Jul 2, 2024 20:30:52 GMT -5
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Thanks for the additional commentary.
