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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 11:07:32 GMT -5
You're having these beautiful "morning in America" moments with candidates who are the philosophical children of Marx and Engles, and whose loathing and skepticism is reserved for Washington and Jefferson. Leaders of your party -- Obama and Ginsberg are among the many openly expressing disapproval and a desire to fundamentally alter the constitution they swore to uphold (with their fingers crossed).
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 11:11:28 GMT -5
And all the Democrats are Commies? What else? What do you have against communism? |
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Post by factorychef on Sept 2, 2024 11:39:49 GMT -5
Like I said comrade! I'm also a military Vet.
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 11:54:54 GMT -5
Like I said comrade! I'm also a military Vet. That's not an answer. What do you have against communism? Your mockery implies that you're not in favor of it. So what do you have against it? |
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Sept 2, 2024 12:11:12 GMT -5
Take aways from this thread.
You people have way too much time on your hands.
Mike
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Post by james on Sept 2, 2024 12:54:04 GMT -5
<Engels> and Lol and omg! and Wtf?
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 13:03:38 GMT -5
<Engels> and Lol and omg! and Wtf? What do you have against communism? Your mockery (and gratuitous spelling correction) imply that you have something against Marx and Engels. The American Democrat party currently consists of many Democratic Socialists. Openly. The two candidates appear to represent that faction of their party. Nobody from the press has asked them about it. Mockery is, to date, the only response. The party claims to want to appeal to the mass "moderate" American. But these two candidates are extremist. That's exactly why Harris never won a single delegate when she ran against Biden in '20. Mockery isn't an answer. |
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Post by billhammond on Sept 2, 2024 13:37:25 GMT -5
Look, I probably wouldn't be so sensitive to these "news" story ads if: 1. They weren't the only thing I read or watch in the national press 2. there was even a hint of scrutiny of the two candidates (I would take even 1/1000th the scrutiny, skepticism, "fact-checking" and cynicism with which the press has approached the opposing candidates) 3. there hadn't been such an about-face at the head of the ticket 4. There was at least a modicum of skepticism about a "Democrat" Party who chose their candidate very UN-democratically. Yes, I know you know the loophole. I just doubt anyone believes it. 5. I'm frankly jealous of the winning team/popular kids/I'd-Like-To-Teach-The-World-To-Sing/Kumaya advertising that is every single news story about the pair of candidates....including, but not limited to adorable sneaker-wearing photos. Yes, I wish I could be one of the cool kids instead of the green gap-toothed, redneck, under-educated, neanderthal that the press makes me out to be every single night on the News, and in every article in every paper. So, yeah, "sour". You guys cheated and you won. Just as Harry Reid would have said. Good Lord, John, have you never heard of a feature story? I posted the excerpt because I didn't know Walz was a gearhead, and I found that interesting and thought it might interest forumites, especially car buffs and retired farmers. It's NOT an ad, it's a feature story (back in the day, folks called them "human interest stories") that highlights a little known side of a guy who's very much in the news these days. Not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. |
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Post by james on Sept 2, 2024 13:39:45 GMT -5
*Backs away slowly*
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 13:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 13:52:36 GMT -5
Not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. I don't believe conspiracy theories. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Sept 2, 2024 15:05:56 GMT -5
I don't believe conspiracy theories. And yet. "The American Democrat party currently consists of many Democratic Socialists. Openly. The two candidates appear to represent that faction of their party. Nobody from the press has asked them about it. . . . The party claims to want to appeal to the mass 'moderate' American. But these two candidates are extremist. That's exactly why Harris never won a single delegate when she ran against Biden in '20." And this. ". . . a 'Democrat' Party who chose their candidate very UN-democratically. Yes, I know you know the loophole. I just doubt anyone believes it." Allow me to suggest that just about every proposition embedded in those snippets is rooted in semantically skewed presumptions about the meanings of terms, starting with "socialist" (whether Democratic or not) and "consists of" and extending to "extremist" and "loophole." Then there's the assertion that "Nobody from the press has asked them about it," which has the effect of implying either deliberate collusion or the operation of that (metaphorical) murmuration that somehow governs the opinion-space with which you disagree. How about the possibility that "nobody from the press" (outside the Fox/MAGAverse*) really thinks that the Harris/Walz ticket represents a socialist "faction" of the DemocratiIC Party? You know who thinks Harris is a socialist-- and that her candidacy is the result of a "coup"? Trump. See www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/17/trump-pennsylvania-rally. * I'm not sure that even Fox has quite made this assertion--see www.foxnews.com/media/flashback-see-how-kamala-harris-answered-when-she-confronted-2020-the-most-liberal-senator. Of course, that was four years ago, so maybe she has, as Trump has said, gone "full communist." And local/regional right-wing news outlets publish plenty of Harris-the-socialist op-eds. Just DuckDuckGo "kamala harris socialist" and see where that proposition is entertained. |
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Post by John B on Sept 2, 2024 15:40:26 GMT -5
You're having these beautiful "morning in America" moments with candidates who are the philosophical children of Marx and Engles, and whose loathing and skepticism is reserved for Washington and Jefferson. Leaders of your party -- Obama and Ginsberg are among the many openly expressing disapproval and a desire to fundamentally alter the constitution they swore to uphold (with their fingers crossed). Oh bullshit. |
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 15:42:34 GMT -5
I don't believe conspiracy theories. And yet. "The American Democrat party currently consists of many Democratic Socialists. Openly. The two candidates appear to represent that faction of their party. Nobody from the press has asked them about it. . . . The party claims to want to appeal to the mass 'moderate' American. But these two candidates are extremist. That's exactly why Harris never won a single delegate when she ran against Biden in '20." And this. ". . . a 'Democrat' Party who chose their candidate very UN-democratically. Yes, I know you know the loophole. I just doubt anyone believes it." Allow me to suggest that just about every proposition embedded in those snippets is rooted in semantically skewed presumptions about the meanings of terms, starting with "socialist" (whether Democratic or not) and "consists of" and extending to "extremist" and "loophole." Then there's the assertion that "Nobody from the press has asked them about it," which has the effect of implying either deliberate collusion or the operation of that (metaphorical) murmuration that somehow governs the opinion-space with which you disagree. How about the possibility that "nobody from the press" (outside the Fox/MAGAverse*) really thinks that the Harris/Walz ticket represents a socialist "faction" of the DemocratiIC Party? You know who thinks Harris is a socialist-- and that her candidacy is the result of a "coup"? Trump. See www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/17/trump-pennsylvania-rally. * I'm not sure that even Fox has quite made this assertion--see www.foxnews.com/media/flashback-see-how-kamala-harris-answered-when-she-confronted-2020-the-most-liberal-senator. Of course, that was four years ago, so maybe she has, as Trump has said, gone "full communist." And local/regional right-wing news outlets publish plenty of Harris-the-socialist op-eds. Just DuckDuckGo "kamala harris socialist" and see where that proposition is entertained. And none of that represents a conspiracy or a conspiracy theory. " "Nobody from the press has asked them about it," which has the effect of implying either deliberate collusion or the operation of that (metaphorical) murmuration that somehow governs the opinion-space with which you disagree." Neither is a conspiracy, nor a conspiracy theory. People who believe the same things do not "conspire" to act upon them. And "conspiracy" and "conspiracy theory" are simply tropes to dismiss dissent. And it's not a conspiracy that you use them as such. The terms simply work among the right people, so they continue to be used. |
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Post by millring on Sept 2, 2024 15:47:08 GMT -5
You're having these beautiful "morning in America" moments with candidates who are the philosophical children of Marx and Engles, and whose loathing and skepticism is reserved for Washington and Jefferson. Leaders of your party -- Obama and Ginsberg are among the many openly expressing disapproval and a desire to fundamentally alter the constitution they swore to uphold (with their fingers crossed). Oh bullshit. " |
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Post by John B on Sept 2, 2024 15:56:53 GMT -5
Maybe I wasn't clear. I was trying to say YOU are full of bullshit, not some random quote. |
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