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Post by epaul on Apr 1, 2009 21:17:04 GMT -5
I like to eat farmed animals as much as the next guy, but I heard on NPR today that some outfits have actually set up whale farms. They pen up whales and then process them for food and other stuff just as if they were a darn chicken or something.
That is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Chickens and fish are one thing, but a whale is a mammal, just like us, and we shouldn't be eating fellow mammals. Except for cows and pigs, and maybe a horse now and then, I guess they are mammals, too. But they aren't whales. Not even close.
I don't know, this whale farming business is just wrong. I could maybe see eating the dead ones that float up on the beaches. I mean, that's just being frugal. You got to do something with them. And they are already dead and all. Or close to it.
I don't know, this old world is just changing too fast for this farm boy. Cows, pigs, chickens, and the occasional slow horse, but that's it for the farm animals. Free Willy!
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Apr 1, 2009 23:58:28 GMT -5
Last time I freed my willy, I got into a peck o' trouble.
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Post by RickW on Apr 2, 2009 0:06:39 GMT -5
I dunno, Paul - what's the diff - we keep telling our girls we're apex predators - we eat everything, and nothing eats us but the worms.
I like whales, they're very cool. I don't think I'd eat one. But you know, I've done a lot of diving - octopus are very, very cool - very smart, brains the size of ours, and when you look in their eyes, there's something there. But darn, they're tasty.
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Post by jdd on Apr 2, 2009 2:31:00 GMT -5
yum! ![](http://sushicoasthouston.com/picstorage/45d94c5c15f9eTako%20Su.jpg)
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Post by millring on Apr 2, 2009 5:48:07 GMT -5
Maybe you just aren't inuit.
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Post by theevan on Apr 2, 2009 5:54:56 GMT -5
With a bit of seasoning I could get inuit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 7:18:03 GMT -5
Cows are mammals, pigs are mammals, as are sheep, goats etc. People all over the world raise and slaughter millions of mammals for food. How are whales any different? Yeah, I know, they're bigger, and live in the ocean and stuff.
Whales have been the darling of environmental groups for decades, and we've been told how intelligent they are, that they communicate with each other and are just generally nice animals. Are we sure the same things don't apply to cattle and pigs?
Myself, I wouldn't eat whale meat (unless I was REALLY hungry) but I sure don't begrudge anyone else eating them, if that's they're preference. Pen-raising whales is, no doubt, a far more efficient method that hunting them on the high seas.
Tom
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Post by Tamarack on Apr 2, 2009 9:42:04 GMT -5
I agree with epaul -- we have a mystic connection to whales that we don't have to cows and pigs. However, eating whales that wash up on shore would be far more effective than trying to blow them up with explosives: www.snopes.com/critters/disposal/whale.asp
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2009 9:54:33 GMT -5
I had a mystic connection to a sheep once.
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2009 9:55:49 GMT -5
Which leaves me 932 behind Karl Rove.
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Post by millring on Apr 2, 2009 10:01:47 GMT -5
Which leaves me 932 behind Karl Rove. Perhaps better behind than in front of.
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Post by patrick on Apr 2, 2009 10:07:15 GMT -5
You have to grow whales in pens.
Ever tried herding them? Free range whales just don't work.
Now, of course, they have to have anchovy farms to grow the food for the farmed whales.
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Post by Don Clark on Apr 2, 2009 10:16:11 GMT -5
You make it sound like there is a connection between ambergris and hamburger grease.
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Post by millring on Apr 2, 2009 10:20:09 GMT -5
<plankton>
Come along, boys, and listen to my tale Tell you of my troubles on the Gulf Stream Trail Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay
On a ten-dollar whaler, a forty dollar harpoon I'm a going to punch whales 'neath Atlantic moons Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay
I'm up in the morning before daylight Before I sleep the moon shines bright Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay.
Oh, it's scrod and seabass most every day We'll soon be eating lobster if we get our pay Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay
With my hand on the gunnel and my seat in the stern I'm the best whalepuncher that ever was born Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay
No shoes, justa slicker, and it's pourin' down rain Got too close to Moby's blow hole again Come a ti yi yippy, come a tee yi yay, ti yi yippy yi yay
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Post by RickW on Apr 2, 2009 10:23:52 GMT -5
Perhaps you could train killer whales to kind of be like collies, and herd big whales. Hmmm, could be onto something there.
The thing with the environmental movement is they have a bad habit of both anthropomorphizing animals, and also latching onto the cute ones. Hence all the to-do about killing baby seals. If it was baby slugs being clubbed to death, no one would bat an eyelash. I suppose it gets people involved, but if they have to get involved because somethings cute, then the environmental movement is going to run out of gas quickly.
We have folks here who protested the killer whales being in the aquarium, ,and the belugas. They would say, 'oh, you can hear them moaning. They're unhappy they're kept here.' I was not under the impression that anyone understood whale very well, (except for Ellen Degeneres,) and could interpret a whale moan as anything at all. For all we know, it's a pretty good gig for a whale - dont' have to hunt, or worry about polar bears eating you.
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Post by RickW on Apr 2, 2009 10:24:38 GMT -5
John, c'mon, you had to make that up.... ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by epaul on Apr 2, 2009 11:24:52 GMT -5
Great song, John.
But if I may make one small suggestion, in verse 5, substitute "bern" for "born". It almost means the same thing if you sing it quickly, and the rhyme would be a lot more solid. Conversely, you could substitute "storm" for "stern", but that makes the song get a little scary. What if it's a bad storm and the guy drowns or gets wet. Not sure if you want to introduce those thoughts.
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Post by dradtke on Apr 2, 2009 11:33:30 GMT -5
Paul, if you'd been listening a little closer to that story on the radio, you'd know that those whale farms are in Illinois. Now, if you can come up with an alternative crop to save the Illinois farmers now that corn prices have crashed, maybe then you can be so self-righteous. C'mon, they're just trying to earn a living like everybody else.
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Post by millring on Apr 2, 2009 11:59:27 GMT -5
Great song, John. But if I may make one small suggestion, in verse 5, substitute "bern" for "born". . All this talk lately of Stan Rogers, I was just imagining a seafaring accent. I'm normally so very careful with my rhyme schemes.
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Post by RickW on Apr 2, 2009 12:16:28 GMT -5
Here I thought you were finding this songs all the time - pretty darn good for off the cuff, and pretty funny....
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