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Post by mnhermit on Nov 2, 2009 19:22:46 GMT -5
So I went online recently to purchase some more rolling tobacco - steeling myself to accept the outrageous tariff so recently imposed - and found that my preferred smoke is no longer manufactured - but the web site suggested I try another which just happened to sell for $30/lb less. It appears that if it's called PIPE tobacco it is not subject to the sin tax applied to CIGARETTE tobacco. I received it today and yes it comes in a different bag, but it sure looks the same and I imagine the nicotine will work as well.
Sometimes I really like specificity in my legislation.
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 2, 2009 20:26:20 GMT -5
We're on the politically incorrect side of this one, Dennis.
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Post by omaha on Nov 2, 2009 20:34:18 GMT -5
Sadly, they stopped making my preferred mixture (Dunhill #965) some years ago. There are some similar brands out there, but none are quite the same.
Oh, and I snapped the tenon off the stem of my 1992 Randy Wiley "Sea Breeze" pipe on Sunday. Dang it.
I buy one bag (in bulk) from my tobacconist every other month or so. I'm glad that the new sin tax does not apply, but in reality, I spend so little on tobacco anyway I don't think much about it. I have friends who go through three or four $10 cigars per day! I'll stick to my pipe.
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Post by mnhermit on Nov 2, 2009 20:41:42 GMT -5
We're on the politically incorrect side of this one, Dennis. Don, I don't think of it as 'politically incorrect' so much as politically exploitable. Jeff - when I was spending less than $20 a month on tobacco I didn't pay much attention to it either, then suddenly, in the blink of an eye, it became $50 a month - this caught my attention. Much like replacing a well loved pipe got yours - it has to be done, but one doesn't like it. |
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Post by bamfiles on Nov 2, 2009 20:44:22 GMT -5
If you just learned that pipe tobacco isn't, currently, taxed like cigarettes are, you just learned a valuable lesson. The theory is that people who smoke pipes don't inhale like cigarette smokers so pipe tobacco isn't harmful. We were rolling our own 50 years ago. I was never very good at it and just went back to buying cigarettes. I never could get used to a pipe, too hot, and I don't think my false teeth would like it much now. I'm going to give these things up as soon as I can find a doctor who can guaranty me it will help but so far none will. At my last physical the doctor gave me a better than average chance of having a longer than average life, and a scrip for Chantix if I was willing to take a chance on the side effects, which I'm not. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
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Post by Tamarack on Nov 2, 2009 20:53:42 GMT -5
Dennis -- you're guaranteed to get a nicotine hit, but I worry about your lungs -- highly alkaline pipe tobacco smoke has got to be much worse than cigarettes.
It seems that a lot of state legislatures seem to think more sin taxes will solve budget problems (along with lotteries and more casinos)
At the rate of one bowl per week in warm weather and one bowl per month in cold weather I don't worry too much about the price of pipe tobacco.
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Post by mnhermit on Nov 2, 2009 20:54:36 GMT -5
I've gone back and forth (rolling and buying) according to my economic status, or location. It's often very inconvenient to pull out the baggie of tobacco and roll up while driving down the road - but that's what pipes are for.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 2, 2009 21:24:38 GMT -5
Don, I don't think of it as 'politically incorrect' so much as politically exploitable. Dennis, the truth of the matter is that you're going to fry in Hell for smoking anyway. And since there is no money in hell, you should quit worrying about it. |
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Post by Russell Letson on Nov 2, 2009 21:48:12 GMT -5
And since there is no money in hell, you should quit worrying about it. Tell that to the preachers who use it as a disincentive in their business model. |
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 2, 2009 21:52:31 GMT -5
If Hell had a currency, I think that's what I'd invest my savings in. The place is sure to grow.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 2, 2009 22:58:05 GMT -5
You know what might be interesting, Dennis? Grow your own tobacco. I know you live in the great white north and your soil is rocky, but look at the crappy soil tobacco grows in down south. It's all clay. Soil can be changed. And if epaul is eating fresh tomatoes where he lives in early July, maybe some sort of visquine greenhouse might be in order.
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Post by Doug on Nov 2, 2009 23:32:24 GMT -5
When Obama made his first new tax a tax increase of over 1000% on the poor, how many rich people roll their own, we went to rolling pipe tobacco. We were smoking little cigars to not get killed by the cigarette tax and they went from $17 a carton to $76 a carton.
Got on line and found out that pipe tobacco isn't taxes the same way. I'm paying $24 a pound vs over $50 for cigarette tobacco.
More taxes on the poor.
Dennis buy a lot of pipe tobacco, they will figure it out and get us.
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Post by mnhermit on Nov 3, 2009 0:16:58 GMT -5
Todd - I actually talked to a guy from about 70 miles south of here whose uncles grew tobacco locally- I'm not sure quite when it was, but I do remember that they used the tobacco drying shed (when it was empty of the 'baccy) for the still - so I'm guessing it wasn't lately. Growing tobacco is HARD, I have thought about it, but I'm sure there must be some law against it.
Doug - I bought four pounds thinking exactly that.
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Post by Doug on Nov 3, 2009 7:39:04 GMT -5
Growing tobacco isn't that hard it's the cureing that defeats home growers.
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Post by Greg B on Nov 3, 2009 9:12:02 GMT -5
I haven't had a pipe in SOOOO long. I miss it. I actually prefer it during the cold months. For you pipe smokers, who's tried "Squadron Leader"? Do you like it?  I've been moving away from the mellower blends and towards Stokkebye Optimum. There's another one called "Perfection" that's really good but I don't remember who the blender is. I'll have to research it. Omaha: I found a replacement for your "Sea Breeze" www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/denmark/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=49831 |
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Post by omaha on Nov 3, 2009 9:24:34 GMT -5
I'll give the Squadron Leader a try. Thanks for the tip.
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Post by Greg B on Nov 3, 2009 9:33:08 GMT -5
I haven't tried Squadron Leader yet. But there seems to be a lot of good reviews out there.
Dang, now I want to sit back and smoke a pipe. It's 6:30 in the morning and my pipes are 50 miles and 10 hours away.
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Post by mnhermit on Nov 3, 2009 10:15:16 GMT -5
I understand that pipes are a whole 'nother sub-genre of expensive toys to play with, but really for that kind of money I expect it to fill itself with the finest blends, place itself in my mouth, and light itself preferably with a petite brunette holding the flame. :-) I think I'll stick to my corncob. |
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Post by Greg B on Nov 3, 2009 10:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 3, 2009 10:41:44 GMT -5
... with a petite brunette holding the flame. :-) I think I'll stick to my corncob. I don't know, the petite brunette sounded better to me. |
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