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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 4, 2009 15:22:45 GMT -5
WASHINGTON – A trio of senators — each with differing politics — is launching a rescue effort for troubled climate legislation.
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., together with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., announced Wednesday that they would work to patch together a bill that could pass the Senate.
A bill introduced by Kerry and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., that would impose mandatory limits on heat-trapping gases for the first time is stalled in committee because of a Republican boycott.
The senators said that they were not usurping that effort, but would take the best pieces from the bill and develop legislation that has majority support. Among the additions could be more incentives for nuclear power and provisions for offshore drilling.
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Sweet!
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Post by bamfiles on Nov 4, 2009 15:28:01 GMT -5
Maybe now that Teddy's gone they can put up turbines off Martha's Vinyard.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 4, 2009 16:18:02 GMT -5
Excellent point.
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Post by dickt on Nov 4, 2009 16:24:44 GMT -5
Go nukes!
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Post by Cornflake on Nov 4, 2009 16:43:02 GMT -5
As much as I want to see more bipartisanship in general, we're doing too little, too late on this issue, and any compromise is likely to be even more inadequate.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 4, 2009 16:57:26 GMT -5
Don, I think whatever they come up with will be a bunch of things.
1. It will be more likely to pass than what is currently being proposed.
2. It will be a step in the right direction
3. It will never be as much as what some people want but what those people want they will never get
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Post by theevan on Nov 4, 2009 17:01:18 GMT -5
Not sure if you're serious, dick, but facilitating nukes seems a great idea.
Go Nukes!™
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Post by dickt on Nov 4, 2009 17:08:42 GMT -5
Not sure if you're serious, dick, but facilitating nukes seems a great idea. Go Nukes!™ My power comes from the plant that's literally in my backyard (OK, within 20 miles). They've a couple of years into the approval process for two new reactors. As I've posted before, I've been a fan of nuclear power since that really cool exhibit at the 1964 World's Fair in New York that I attended as a 14-year-old. |
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Post by theevan on Nov 4, 2009 17:15:52 GMT -5
If you said it before that would be so, like, yesterday. I live in the moment
and stuff.
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Post by Dan McLaughlin on Nov 4, 2009 19:33:10 GMT -5
What is this, a cruel hoax!
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Post by millring on Nov 4, 2009 19:48:11 GMT -5
the 1964 World's Fair in New York that I attended as a 14-year-old. This is funny. I was looking for the Marc Cohn version of the Marc Cohn song -- Perfect Love -- and couldn't find it. But I found this guy doing a pretty darn good job with it. He has the guitar part nailed perfectly. ...and then I started looking at the guy....is he a dead ringer for Joe Piscopo? |
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Post by dickt on Nov 5, 2009 9:51:59 GMT -5
Listened to it. The line "they met Robert Kennedy there" immediately follows the '64 Fair line.
Hey, I met Robert Kennedy in 1963. We took our cousins on the FBI tour and when we left the Justice Dept there was a limo parked outside with the driver standing by it. We asked who he was picking up and then waited for RFK to come out. He actually signed the piece of paper that we had. Happened to be the human target that they had riddled with bullets on the tour. My cousins took that target back to KC--I wonder what happened to it.
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Post by Tim Alexander (fmrly. Camalex) on Nov 5, 2009 10:35:16 GMT -5
Listened to it. The line "they met Robert Kennedy there" immediately follows the '64 Fair line. Hey, I met Robert Kennedy in 1963. We took our cousins on the FBI tour and when we left the Justice Dept there was a limo parked outside with the driver standing by it. We asked who he was picking up and then waited for RFK to come out. He actually signed the piece of paper that we had. Happened to be the human target that they had riddled with bullets on the tour. My cousins took that target back to KC--I wonder what happened to it. Your cousins got RFK to sign a "human target" riddled with bullet holes?  Wow imagine the looks you'd get today if you tried that same thing. The SS would be at your doorstep the next day (hour) with a lot of questions and not a lot of patience... |
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Post by millring on Nov 5, 2009 10:39:51 GMT -5
Listened to it. The line "they met Robert Kennedy there" immediately follows the '64 Fair line. Hey, I met Robert Kennedy in 1963. We took our cousins on the FBI tour and when we left the Justice Dept there was a limo parked outside with the driver standing by it. We asked who he was picking up and then waited for RFK to come out. He actually signed the piece of paper that we had. Happened to be the human target that they had riddled with bullets on the tour. My cousins took that target back to KC--I wonder what happened to it. That's a great story. I'll always wonder how history would have changed with Bobby Kennedy as president. |
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Post by Greg B on Nov 5, 2009 10:50:03 GMT -5
Back in the 70's I was a debate geek in high school (yeah, I know, and a chess geek and a D&D geek and eventually a guitar geek). We use to debate the problems of nuclear power. I was against it and in the 70s that was a valid position. But now, 40 years later, nuclear reactors have become so much more efficient that if we built 100 new Generation 3 nuclear reactors and ran them each for 100 years we would not produce as much nuclear waste as currently exist right now. It may very well be that the waste we currently have could be used as fuel for the new, efficient reactors. If you live a rational, fact based life then you must be open to changing your mind when the evidence changes. Nuclear power is a place where I've had to change my mind. I think it's now a very valid form of clean energy and we're being dumb to ignore it based on fears that were valid 40 years ago but are not valid now. A good description of the changes in nuclear power can be found here skeptoid.com/episodes/4092 |
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Post by knobtwister on Nov 5, 2009 11:16:46 GMT -5
I'm pretty pleased with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. He's smart, practical, and pragmatic on bi-partisan issues. So naturally there are multiple movements around here to unseat him because he's not conservative enough. You don't get your conservative street creds in SC until after you lead your second lynching.  Don |
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 11:19:05 GMT -5
Or your first affair.
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Post by bamfiles on Nov 5, 2009 16:30:08 GMT -5
When I was in Antarctica back in '68 we had a nuke plant at McMurdo but the environmentalists made them take it down. I don't recall what replaced it for electricity. Probably oil.
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Post by aquaduct on Nov 5, 2009 21:16:02 GMT -5
Would have been nice if Kerry would have given it that much thought the first time around.
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Wow imagine the looks you'd get today if you tried that same thing. The SS would be at your doorstep the next day (hour) with a lot of questions and not a lot of patience...
