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Post by knobtwister on Nov 5, 2009 16:33:32 GMT -5
"Two gunmen in military uniforms shot and killed as many as nine people and wounded as many as 20 at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday, officials said."
Ye Gads, maybe they did follow us home.
For some reason the CNN link won't copy. Go to CNN.
Don
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Post by paulschlimm on Nov 5, 2009 16:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 16:44:39 GMT -5
'The FBI said they don't believe terrorism was involved.'
Just at least two and possibly three people shooting folks on an Army base. I guess it depends on your definition of terrorism.
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Post by John B on Nov 5, 2009 16:49:53 GMT -5
'The FBI said they don't believe terrorism was involved.' Just at least two and possibly three people shooting folks on an Army base. I guess it depends on your definition of terrorism. Should probably amend that to 'The FBI said they don't believe terrorism (from foreign sources) was involved.' |
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Post by knobtwister on Nov 5, 2009 16:51:43 GMT -5
Apparently a lot soldiers with stress problems are sent there.
Don
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 5, 2009 16:59:24 GMT -5
They were two seperate shootings, one in a personnel office, the other in a theater.
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Post by bamfiles on Nov 5, 2009 17:01:25 GMT -5
I need more information. 1 nutcase, maybe but multiple simultaneous nutcases? I need more information.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 17:07:10 GMT -5
12 dead, 31 wounded, according to a news conference at the base. One shooter confirmed dead.
From press conference: Local police killed the shooter. One civilian police officer killed.
Shooter was a U.S. soldier, official says. Two other soldiers have been apprehended and are being questioned.
(R) U.S. Rep. McCaul, maybe unaware soldiers are suspects, calls shooting "coordinated attack against our military" and "an act of terror."
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Nov 5, 2009 17:09:03 GMT -5
Far out.
One of Kel and I's closet friends is a part-time civilian stress counselor at that Killeen, TX base (they've indeed got a fairly progressive stress counseling program). They cut her last rotation, so she went back to Louisiana.
I guess they should have kept her tour on the payroll.
I'll shoot her a call and see if she's heard anything from the inside.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 5, 2009 17:10:09 GMT -5
(R) U.S. Rep. McCaul, maybe unaware soldiers are suspects, calls shooting "coordinated attack against our military" and "an act of terror." There's something pretty scary going on, but what kind of self-respecting terrorist targets military installations? What about civilians, women and children? |
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 5, 2009 17:11:19 GMT -5
12 dead, 31 wounded, according to a news conference at the base. One shooter confirmed dead. 7, 9, 12 dead. The count keeps going up. |
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Post by bamfiles on Nov 5, 2009 17:21:08 GMT -5
There was that group who were planning to hit the base in New Jersey not too long ago. We need to know who the shooters were.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Nov 5, 2009 17:29:26 GMT -5
Ok, then. My wife is on the horn with out friend right now; no new news save for this:
The hosptial shooter is Maj. Malik Hassan a recent convert to Islam. I hasten to add that correlation does not imply causation, but I'm sure this is going to hit the press like Jean Claude Van Dam on crack.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 18:04:16 GMT -5
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison says that officer who did shooting was upset about being deployed to Iraq.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 5, 2009 18:13:22 GMT -5
Too bad they killed him before getting a chance to question him.
Is there a second shooter, or has the story switched to a single shooter?
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 18:14:51 GMT -5
One shooter, two helpers or possibly two other people who also did some shooting. Not sure. the two other guys are in custody.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Nov 5, 2009 22:13:31 GMT -5
Now they are saying the shooter, Maj. Malik Hassan, wasn't killed. He was shot four times. FORT HOOD, Texas – An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post Thursday, authorites said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States. The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive and in stable condition under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said. Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot at least four times. in another story... The Army psychiatrist suspected of carrying a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, had come to the attention of authorities six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats, law enforcement officials said Thursday. One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades. "To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."  |
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 5, 2009 22:36:38 GMT -5
I shudder to think of the Muslim repercussions around here. They guy isn't Muslim nearly as much as he's mentally ill, a diagnosis that transcends all religions.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Nov 6, 2009 0:24:59 GMT -5
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison says that officer who did shooting was upset about being deployed to Iraq. After chatting with our friend, I guess the only thing I feel like reporting in public is that she didn't express surprise so much as disappointment. She sees a lot of people come in for counseling who are just flat-out fuming-angry at the Army, the war, anyone involved in bogging them down in this mess to no seeming end. Angry, angry, angry, and plenty of it. Again, to keep it somewhat cryptic, the sense I got is that a lot of the Army community who have shown evidence of being problematic gets sent to that base for warehousing/evaluation. This guy certainly fits that bill, if nothing else. |
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Post by paulschlimm on Nov 6, 2009 4:57:39 GMT -5
On second thought, why bother? I'll warehouse this post in the "best things left unsaid" file.
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