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Post by Chesapeake on Jul 6, 2011 15:34:16 GMT -5
www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2011/07/06/cnn_cancels_eliot_spitzers_prime_time_program/This is a shame. I'd gotten over my antipathy toward Spitzer for his transgressions and had come to see "In the Arena" as the best news talk show in that timeslot. He is a thoughtful guy, had interesting guests talking about interesting subjects, and was always respectful enough of them (and his viewers) to allow them to complete their sentences. Evidently he wasn't doing badly in the ratings, but still was behind the shouting heads at Fox and MSNBC. It's a blow to civil discussion. I like Anderson Cooper, who will replace him, well enough, but he doesn't have the depth of knowledge and political background that Spitzer brought. Wish they'd given him a little longer to find his audience.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Jul 6, 2011 15:41:01 GMT -5
"I'd gotten over my antipathy toward Spitzer for his transgressions"
I haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2011 16:04:22 GMT -5
Another show I guess I'll never see...
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Post by Russell Letson on Jul 6, 2011 16:11:56 GMT -5
Tramp, the fact that his dick has a mind of its own does not mean that the mind that lives in his skull doesn't have something to offer. Can you say "compartmentalize"? If you want to see his character flaws as disqualifying him for office, fine--that's a reasonable position and one I might (in given cases) agree with. But sexual misbehavior (particularly the garden-variety cheating practiced by Spitzer, no matter how pricey) does not necessarily compromise one's analytical gifts or technical/legal/political expertise.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Jul 6, 2011 16:24:10 GMT -5
Never said he wasn't smart or analytical. Just that I didn't want to watch him be smart and analytical.
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Post by Russell Letson on Jul 6, 2011 16:48:48 GMT -5
I don't want this to sound snotty, but how do you feel about Frank Sinatra?
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Post by Supertramp78 on Jul 6, 2011 16:58:35 GMT -5
I don't have any opinions of him one way or another. Of course I also don't know anything about him other than he was a pretty good singer and a moderately fair actor.
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Post by Russell Letson on Jul 6, 2011 17:03:26 GMT -5
And a comprehensive shitheel. But you don't get much of that through the signal chain.
Nevertheless, I had an aunt who refused to listen to him because he was a bad person.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Jul 6, 2011 17:16:30 GMT -5
I know people who never went to Jane Fonda movies. I myself used to be a huge Woody Allen fan. After he married his wife's adopted daughter, I haven't seen any of his films. Then again I don't have big problems listening to Clinton but I can't deal with Spitzer or Sanford. I think the deal breaker for me is someone who makes a living by telling people they are better than they are. Clinton never ran on the "I'm morally upstanding" or the Sanford "Family values party" or the Spitzer "Law and order guy". Sanfrd not only cheated on his wife (over Father's Day) but didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with it. Spitzer used campaign funds to pay for his hooker visits. Even Giuliani used the New York Police department to drive his girlfriend around, all the while putting out the front of the wholesome conservative values dude. I can't stand that stuff. As far as Woody, he just creeped me out.
Sinatra never said he wasn't an asshole. Kubrick was a terror on the set but I liked his movies because be never made himself out to be a teddy bear. Be honest with me about what you are or what you oppose and have that not be in conflict with your personal life and I'm pretty much cool with you. But lie to me and I dont' like it.
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Post by Chesapeake on Jul 6, 2011 17:30:31 GMT -5
Tramp, I respect your position, especially when it comes to hypocrites, and I can't watch Spitzer without remembering what he did. Same thing with Clinton for that matter. Is it too much to ask that our political leaders have good character? But I also believe in redemption. Anyhow, Spitzer's CNN show is so good that I just hate to see it go. (Dharma, you can still catch it: the changes don't go into effect right away.)
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Post by millring on Jul 6, 2011 17:48:00 GMT -5
A little song, a little dance, a little spitzer down your pants.
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Post by patrick on Jul 6, 2011 17:49:54 GMT -5
A little song, a little dance, a little spitzer down your pants. Laughing, but that's a disturbing image. |
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Post by patrick on Jul 6, 2011 17:53:17 GMT -5
Another viewpoint: Poor Eliot Spitzer has been canceled! The former governor of New York had a show with conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, because CNN was constitutionally unable to give a male Democrat a show without pairing him with a female Republican. But Spitzer basically dominated Parker, because he's a shouty megalomaniac, and Parker eventually left the show, leaving CNN with something resembling an actual hour of liberal opinion programming, which is anathema to their "brand." So he's out.
8 p.m. now goes to Anderson Cooper. Also getting a show is Erin Burnett, a former CNBC personality and make-believe "adviser" to moron birther Donald Trump on his television show "The Apprentice." She is fine, I guess, despite being the longtime public face of the horrible cable channel that represents the destructive interests of the useless bloated financial sector. Better than Piers Morgan, who is not canceled, despite being awful.
CNN claims Spitzer will still be on the cable news network but Spitzer is apparently looking for work at other networks, according to TV Newser.
Also still not fired from CNN: Wolf Blitzer, the dumbest man on television. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 6:42:20 GMT -5
Also still not fired from CNN: Wolf Blitzer, the dumbest man on television. [/blockquote][/quote] Uh, I think any of the hosts on the hideous Fox & Friends would more quickly classify as "the dumbest man on television." Even the women. People say they're the dumbest people on the tube. They set the (low) bar for stupidity. |
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Post by theevan on Jul 7, 2011 7:32:22 GMT -5
"People say", David?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 8:00:18 GMT -5
I'll be one of those people.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jul 7, 2011 8:03:52 GMT -5
Most of those Fox blondes are ex-lawyers so what did you expect?
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Post by theevan on Jul 7, 2011 9:55:40 GMT -5
As an argument it's cheaper than a cheap blonde.
Heh.
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Post by Supertramp78 on Jul 7, 2011 10:14:46 GMT -5
Gretchen Carlson isn't dumb, but she plays dumb to appeal to her audience. Her educational background is extensive. She was her high school valedictorian and graduated with honors from Stanford. That makes her part of the 'educated elite' that her audience doesn't like so she pretends to be dumb as a post. One of her tactics is to claim to not know what some word means so she can look up the meaning on the air and read the defintion to her audience (who might not know). She actually claimed to not know what "ignoramus" meant in order to read a defintion to the audience. She also looked up "czar" once.
So no, she isn't dumb, she just plays one on TV.
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Post by Chesapeake on Jul 7, 2011 10:21:51 GMT -5
Tramp, I think you nailed it. The hosts aren't necessarily the dumbest things on TV, but the show is. I call it the Regis and Cathy Lee effect.
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