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Post by brucemacneill on Sept 29, 2011 16:22:43 GMT -5
I like a president who leaves me with more retirement funds than I had when he was inaugurated. Hasn't happened lately. Only Reagan comes to mind.
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Post by omaha on Oct 7, 2011 10:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by dradtke on Oct 7, 2011 10:58:32 GMT -5
I don't have the facts to back this up, but I happen to believe he's the best candidate.
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Post by omaha on Oct 7, 2011 11:07:31 GMT -5
Apparently you are not alone.
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Post by billhammond on Oct 7, 2011 11:14:15 GMT -5
I like Herb, but I don't know if that 666 plan of his is gonna work.
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Post by theevan on Oct 7, 2011 11:18:24 GMT -5
I like a president who leaves me with more retirement funds than I had when he was inaugurated. Hasn't happened lately. Only Reagan comes to mind. Do they raid your fund? What does a president have to do with your retirement fund?
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Post by billhammond on Oct 7, 2011 11:30:45 GMT -5
Let's say for the sake of argument that Cain wins the nomination. Do you think he could carry the South for the Republicans?
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Post by theevan on Oct 7, 2011 11:38:47 GMT -5
I do. At least here he would. You'd have to query others about MS TX AL SC GA NC AR and so on.
I doubt he'll be the nominee. As inept as the Dems have been at fielding viable candidates at times, the R's seem to be worse. I still think Romney will emerge as the candidate, then sink like a stone in the general election.
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Post by epaul on Oct 7, 2011 11:45:15 GMT -5
We did a quick Hobo Haus poll last night. Wendell Hagenbeck was the clear favorite of Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I don't know how much traction Wendell has nationwide, but this guy is amazing. We are trying to get him on KTRF's Coffee Time show. Failing that, maybe on the Trading Post.
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Post by dradtke on Oct 7, 2011 11:52:27 GMT -5
Apparently you are not alone. Sorry. I should have put quotes around "I don't have the facts to back this up, but I happen to believe..." That's my favorite Cain quote, and it applies to pretty much everything the Republicans happen to believe. I intend to use it a lot. ;D
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Post by omaha on Oct 7, 2011 11:53:26 GMT -5
I have a hard time thinking Cain is going to get the nomination. It just feels so far fetched.
But then, at this point four years ago, so did Obama. Who's to say it can't happen?
There are a lot of things about Cain that I find attractive. I have my doubts about 999, but on the other hand I give him enormous credit for putting an actual plan on actual paper and getting it out there for debate.
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Post by omaha on Oct 7, 2011 11:55:58 GMT -5
Apparently you are not alone. Sorry. I should have put quotes around "I don't have the facts to back this up, but I happen to believe..." That's my favorite Cain quote, and it applies to pretty much everything the Republicans happen to believe. I intend to use it a lot. ;D Oh, I got your meaning all right. Curiously, subsequent revelations seem to be heading in the direction of Cain's instincts, so you might want to rethink that as a ridicule point.
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Post by millring on Oct 7, 2011 12:15:14 GMT -5
you might want to rethink that as a ridicule point. Who to ridicule and who not to ridicule is not for you to decide. That's Jon Stewart's job. And until HE ridicules "Occupy Wall Street", Cain is simply insane for jumping the gun.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 7, 2011 12:18:39 GMT -5
Subsequent revelations of what? Cain's passive-voice pronouncement, complete with built-in deniability (doubled up on either side of the "but"), is classic paranoid smear material:
"I don't have the facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama Administration."
Its usefulness lies in the way that any actual facts that support any portion of its assertions can be used to shore up the conspiracy-minded part of the electorate. Did anyone do any planning? Aha! Gotcha! Did anyone suggest ongoing activities (that's "orchestrating")? Gotcha again! Most important, did anyone who did any of planning or "orchestrating" (wonderful word, that, with its implication of leadership and control) sympathize with the Administration and therefore might be assumed to be part of a campaign of support? Smoking gun!
Cain projects a kind of common-sense, no-bullshit, can-do pragmatism, but talk like this suggests that either he shares the vision of the wonkier wing of the Tea Party or understands how to feed its suspicious (not to say paranoid) view of the world.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 7, 2011 12:20:08 GMT -5
Who to ridicule and who not to ridicule is not for you to decide. That's Jon Stewart's job. And until HE ridicules "Occupy Wall Street", Cain is simply insane for jumping the gun. You must have missed Samantha Bee's piece on who poops where.
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Post by millring on Oct 7, 2011 12:26:54 GMT -5
Well, if she gave the go-ahead, Herm's back in with the in crowd.
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Post by omaha on Oct 7, 2011 12:41:38 GMT -5
You know, Russell, sometimes a cigar is really just a cigar.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 7, 2011 13:07:59 GMT -5
And sometimes it's a dog turd somebody is trying to snooker you into lighting up.
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Post by Doug on Oct 7, 2011 13:15:03 GMT -5
Poll: Cain surges, opens up 20-point lead on Romney In news sure to inject shock and awe into the Republican political primary season, a Zogby poll released Thursday showed Herman Cain leading the Republican field, topping former front-runner Mitt Romney by an astonishing 20 points. Cain would also narrowly edge out Obama in a general election, the poll found, by a 46�“44 margin. more.......... news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html
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Post by dradtke on Oct 7, 2011 13:58:48 GMT -5
I'm holding out for Fred Thompson.
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