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Post by godotwaits on Nov 8, 2013 10:12:16 GMT -5
195 mph sustained winds. Gusts to 235 mph. Obviously a category 5. Storm surge 50 ft. Right straight into the phillippines. That's a mighty blow!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 10:30:18 GMT -5
Well hopefully everyone is headed for the mid ground, I think the high ground is going to be a bit windy. With a constant 195 mph wind, what the 50 ft. surge doesn't get the wind will. I don't see a good outcome here, way too many people and not enough safe areas.
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Post by theevan on Nov 8, 2013 12:42:56 GMT -5
That's Camille territory. Unbelievably powerful.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 13:09:43 GMT -5
That's Camille territory. Unbelievably powerful. It's possible Hayain may be the most powerful ever recorded.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 13:15:36 GMT -5
<Haiyan>
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Post by godotwaits on Nov 8, 2013 13:27:28 GMT -5
My bad James. But I swear the initial media had it that way, but then again it might have been a sn. moment;)
oh and typhoom. I saw that. But I thought given the topic it was very evocative.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 8, 2013 14:55:05 GMT -5
That's Camille territory. Unbelievably powerful. It's possible Hayain may be the most powerful ever recorded. I heard that.
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Post by brucemacneill on Nov 8, 2013 14:59:06 GMT -5
It's possible Hayain may be the most powerful ever recorded. I heard that. Camille could have been but once the power went out those old reel-to-reel recorders wouldn't work. Now that we have cell phones lots of stuff gets recorded that didn't before. Seriously, hell of a storm in a place that's not really set up for recovery. Heard 3 people killed but expect that number to rise a lot.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 8, 2013 15:11:48 GMT -5
They had a huge 7.1 earthquake there last week.
One could get paranoid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:15:06 GMT -5
Another thing, Haiyan's path crosses a area with thousands of islands, some of which won't be there after it passes. Not all of the islands are big enough to offer any protection at all because the highest elevation on the island will still be well below the surge level. Some are volcanic in origin and large enough to offer some protection if the inhabitants move inland. Indonesia and the Philippines are probably the most highly populated island region there is and a a storm like this could kill thousands.
I got on Google maps and looked, most islands of any reasonable size are populated, you can see the houses. People tend to live on the shore and even if they move inland to be safe they will have nothing to come back to. After the storm passes, hundreds of thousands of shoreline homes will have been swept out to sea, what a mess that is going to be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:52:27 GMT -5
Very grim. I wonder how the ruins at Fukushima would hold up to a 50' storm surge.
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Post by Hobson on Nov 10, 2013 10:13:46 GMT -5
As of this morning, there are over 10,000 people dead. It may be weeks before we know the total. And there may be more deaths in the next few weeks without food and fresh water. I look at the pictures and I can't imagine what it's like to be there.
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Post by godotwaits on Nov 10, 2013 11:10:09 GMT -5
so sad
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Post by Resolve on Nov 10, 2013 11:12:30 GMT -5
There just are no words. Prayers.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 10, 2013 17:43:13 GMT -5
As of this morning, there are over 10,000 people dead. So very very sad. Wow.
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Post by coachdoc on Nov 11, 2013 12:08:59 GMT -5
Move away from Florida, folks.
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Post by Marshall on Nov 12, 2013 8:25:41 GMT -5
The US is sending an aircraft carrier to the region with helicopters and relief supplies. It has the ability to produce 400 gallons of fresh water from sea water (desalinization) a day.
Makes me proud. Maybe I'll go pay some more taxes.
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Post by kenlarsson on Nov 12, 2013 11:10:31 GMT -5
The US is sending an aircraft carrier to the region with helicopters and relief supplies. It has the ability to produce 400 gallons of fresh water from sea water (desalinization) a day. Makes me proud. Maybe I'll go pay some more taxes. Not to be picky but that's more like 400,000 gallons per day.....................................
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Post by Marshall on Nov 12, 2013 18:59:37 GMT -5
Just water under the bridge, Ken.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 20:05:50 GMT -5
The US is sending an aircraft carrier to the region with helicopters and relief supplies. It has the ability to produce 400 gallons of fresh water from sea water (desalinization) a day. Makes me proud. Maybe I'll go pay some more taxes. Not to be picky but that's more like 400,000 gallons per day..................................... 400,000 would be nice because there is not a drop of clean fresh water to be found. Wells would have to be well inland to not have been invested with salt water. Heavy rains and high winds would turn most of the rivers and smaller watercourses to mud. No clean water, none or little food, shelter is whatever is left standing, no electricity so wood fires. In the past, the secondary killer in disasters like this was Cholera and Dysentery, sometimes killing more people than the storm did. With the help of other nations hopefully this part can be avoided.
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