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Post by PaulKay on Oct 13, 2014 13:58:42 GMT -5
Back when I was doing a bunch of YouTube videos, my recorder was an HD video camera with an external stereo field mic. Seemed to work okay but I was never very happy with the sound quality. So I am going to try using the iPad as a video recording device and a new audio quality mic that can attach to it. There is a free video to YouTube app that Google offers. Record, Edit, then download. Very simple. No Zooming, but at least you can edit.  |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 13, 2014 19:11:55 GMT -5
Cool. - I'll look into this. It's a little big for my needs. I'm just shooting live HD video with my iphone. I've been using a Tascam iM2 with my iphone. gets good results for concerts  tascam.com/product/im2/You need the adaptor for an iphone 5 Here's a video I just shot of a friend in a great venue, Mayne Stage |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 13, 2014 22:24:02 GMT -5
Another thing I've been meaning to try, but never have, is my photo camera, Sony Alpha55, has a movie feature. And it has a 1/8" stereo microphone input jack. I'v still got my old Sony stereo condenser mic.  It has a 1/8 stereo jack. I should give this a try for home recording. The camera has an excellent lens and can zoom. So I should be able to frame what I want and shoot. The iphone doesn't zoom. But I wouldn't take the good camera out to a bar at this point. There are just too many things that can go wrong. But i really should do a home video trial. |
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Post by RickW on Oct 13, 2014 23:45:33 GMT -5
Last one I did, I recorded onto the iPad for the audio, into Auria. Recorded in HD on my Kodak zi8 at the same time. Then used iMovie to put the soundtrack onto the movie. Worked nicely. You can publish to Youtube directly from iMovie.
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 14, 2014 9:06:40 GMT -5
Another thing I've been meaning to try, but never have, is my photo camera, Sony Alpha55, has a movie feature. And it has a 1/8" stereo microphone input jack. I'v still got my old Sony stereo condenser mic. It has a 1/8 stereo jack. I should give this a try for home recording. The camera has an excellent lens and can zoom. So I should be able to frame what I want and shoot. The iphone doesn't zoom. But I wouldn't take the good camera out to a bar at this point. There are just too many things that can go wrong. But i really should do a home video trial. This is what I had been using with my HD camera. I does okay if I place it in the middle of the room and play through my PA to fill the room with sound. I was hoping with the Apogee mic to play/sing directly into it. Kind of like this... |
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 14, 2014 9:09:31 GMT -5
Last one I did, I recorded onto the iPad for the audio, into Auria. Recorded in HD on my Kodak zi8 at the same time. Then used iMovie to put the soundtrack onto the movie. Worked nicely. You can publish to Youtube directly from iMovie. I just downloaded iMovie onto my iPad yesterday. I will try using that. The free Google "Capture" app is more fundamental and can record 1080. Directly downloads to YouTube. The goal is to grab the video and audio together without getting too fancy. |
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 14, 2014 9:10:39 GMT -5
Cool. - I'll look into this. It's a little big for my needs. I'm just shooting live HD video with my iphone. I've been using a Tascam iM2 with my iphone. gets good results for concerts tascam.com/product/im2/You need the adaptor for an iphone 5 The Tascam mic looks like a great option for mobile recording. I will look into that too. |
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Post by RickW on Oct 14, 2014 13:47:14 GMT -5
Last one I did, I recorded onto the iPad for the audio, into Auria. Recorded in HD on my Kodak zi8 at the same time. Then used iMovie to put the soundtrack onto the movie. Worked nicely. You can publish to Youtube directly from iMovie. I just downloaded iMovie onto my iPad yesterday. I will try using that. The free Google "Capture" app is more fundamental and can record 1080. Directly downloads to YouTube. The goal is to grab the video and audio together without getting too fancy. Yah, I know. But the temptation is there to EQ it, add reverb, a bit of compression, overdub a note or two, etc., etc. You know how it is.  And I found it wasn't too difficult to do, but it does all end up taking more time and complexity. |
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 14, 2014 14:41:22 GMT -5
I just downloaded iMovie onto my iPad yesterday. I will try using that. The free Google "Capture" app is more fundamental and can record 1080. Directly downloads to YouTube. The goal is to grab the video and audio together without getting too fancy. Yah, I know. But the temptation is there to EQ it, add reverb, a bit of compression, overdub a note or two, etc., etc. You know how it is. And I found it wasn't too difficult to do, but it does all end up taking more time and complexity. So now that you mention that, I looked at iMovie today to see if I could do all the things you just noted...especially reverb. Can you do that IN iMovie or do you add the doctored audio TO the movie afterwards? What I was hoping I could do is like garageband have an inter app reverb on the audio while I was recording the movie. I haven't found a way to add reverb at all in a direct iMovie recording. It all appears to be dry sound only. |
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Post by RickW on Oct 14, 2014 20:06:05 GMT -5
No, not that I know. It's very easy to detach the audio, and attach a new one back in.
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 15, 2014 8:10:45 GMT -5
No, not that I know. It's very easy to detach the audio, and attach a new one back in. So you can record the video, detach the audio track, process it through something to add reverb and re-attach it? What apps on the iPad can do this post processing? GarageBand? |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 15, 2014 8:52:00 GMT -5
The Apogee sounds great.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 15, 2014 9:06:42 GMT -5
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 15, 2014 9:21:57 GMT -5
I've seen similar camera mounted boom mics like these before. I had always been tempted to get one. But there is a lot of convenience to use the iPad & apps as a camera that can then be directly edited and posted to YouTube. The video camera has a lot more steps to getting something YouTube ready. |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 15, 2014 9:31:54 GMT -5
I did a trial with my Sony DSLR yesterday. It records video in mp4. A simple download to my computer and it's editable with many video software editing packages (for clipping beginning and end of shoot and such). An mp4 is directly uploadable to YouTube.
The video quality is much higher with a nice fancy schmancy lens.
Of course the rig is more complicated for taking out to shows. But for home it's quite manageable.
I want to try the old Sony stereo mic with the iphone. Just to make sure the iPhone will take the 1/8" mic input and use it. I'm not sure that jack on the iphone does stereo input. That would be a setback. I'd like to get a mic that works with multiple devices.
Though its hard to argue with the sound quality of that Apogee. But the Apogee needs to receive power from the camera for it's condenser power. No problem for iphone and ipad. But the DSLRs don't give power. The camera mics all have their own battery for condenser power.
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 15, 2014 10:47:30 GMT -5
I did a trial with my Sony DSLR yesterday. It records video in mp4. A simple download to my computer and it's editable with many video software editing packages (for clipping beginning and end of shoot and such). An mp4 is directly uploadable to YouTube. The video quality is much higher with a nice fancy schmancy lens. Of course the rig is more complicated for taking out to shows. But for home it's quite manageable. I want to try the old Sony stereo mic with the iphone. Just to make sure the iPhone will take the 1/8" mic input and use it. I'm not sure that jack on the iphone does stereo input. That would be a setback. I'd like to get a mic that works with multiple devices. Though its hard to argue with the sound quality of that Apogee. But the Apogee needs to receive power from the camera for it's condenser power. No problem for iphone and ipad. But the DSLRs don't give power. The camera mics all have their own battery for condenser power. Speaking of fancy lenses. I did also buy one of these for the iPad. Only $25.  |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 15, 2014 13:09:28 GMT -5
Nice. DOes it work?
Reviews on the old Tascam iM2 are not as good as some other mics. Blue has one and Zoom has a new one.
The Apogee still is the best sounding from samples I hear.
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Post by PaulKay on Oct 15, 2014 13:36:54 GMT -5
Don't know yet. It's still in shipment. |
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Post by RickW on Oct 15, 2014 13:58:02 GMT -5
No, not that I know. It's very easy to detach the audio, and attach a new one back in. So you can record the video, detach the audio track, process it through something to add reverb and re-attach it? What apps on the iPad can do this post processing? GarageBand? GarageBand for sure. I'm using Auria, which is a very nice daw. Multitrack daw is also apparently nice, and cheaper than Auria. |
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Post by Marshall on Oct 16, 2014 10:45:36 GMT -5
I made 3 videos with my Sony DSLR camera (mp4) using the old little Sony stereo mic with 1/8" plugged into the camera. They came out VERY good. (at least the video quality. The audio sounds very good too). I think that's the way to go for me for home video recording. Though, I have to turn off the autofocus in the future. Several times in the course of the video the lens does a little tweak of the focus. It's not disconcerting. Just a little annoying. And I've got some very nice microphones that are close-enough-to-studio quality, that I don't need to spend moola on a new mic for that. I should probably pull out my little old Macki board and run the Shure and the Neumanns through there and get a stereo "out" cable that reduces to 1/8 for the camera. That will give the best quality and I only need to buy a stinkin stereo cable. For remote-on-the-fly-performance recording, I'll stick with the iPhone. I might look at one of those lens thingies. And i probably will upgrade the mic input. i don't know if i want to go with that Apogee. It's quite nice, but only mono (I think). Or go with one of the other offerings such as the Blue or the new Zoom.  |
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And I found it wasn't too difficult to do, but it does all end up taking more time and complexity.
