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Post by RickW on Mar 22, 2015 0:17:50 GMT -5
This just looks like an epic disaster waiting to happen. No, this post has nothing to do with global warming. California is facing another year of drought, and they have a year's worth of water in the reservoirs. So, the most populous state in the USA could be about to become unliveable.
Not that I know what they could do. Build desalinators? That would have had to have been planned for a while now. And it would take a hell of a lot desalintors, and pumps and pipelines.
What will happen? Where is everyone going to go? All the businesses, the economy, everything. What is that going to do to the rest of the country. I'm wondering if it's time to get out of the stock market.
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Post by fauxmaha on Mar 22, 2015 0:28:57 GMT -5
This is what happens when governments think they know more than the market about what something should cost.
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Post by jdd2 on Mar 22, 2015 2:24:02 GMT -5
Isn't water a byproduct of burning ethanol? This could be great for midwestern farmers! :rolleyes:
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Post by jdd2 on Mar 22, 2015 3:54:39 GMT -5
I've now been browsing california water use for a while, and it seems really hard to see anything overall for the state--it's big and different areas are affected differently. Ag & irrigation is in the charts, but its portion (vs urban) varies a lot depending on north or south. States to the east, as far as from nebraska down to texas, all seem connected or tied in in one way or another, besides having their own water issues.
Water rights for ag/irrigation use are undoubtedly one of those over-my-dead-body or after-you-pry-my-cold-dead-fingers-off-my-guns kinds of thing. It's hard to see how the ones who have those "rights" are going to allow a market solution.
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Post by brucemacneill on Mar 22, 2015 5:59:14 GMT -5
Think "Mad Max".
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Post by factorychef on Mar 22, 2015 6:39:00 GMT -5
When I flew to Sacramento I asked what all the flooded fields were and was told they were all rice fields. Why do they raise rice someplace that's tight on water. Makes no sense to me.
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Post by jdd2 on Mar 22, 2015 6:47:08 GMT -5
Hmm, since the west & California have been barred from taking water from the great lakes, maybe western Canada/US should build a Keystone west-of-the-rockies pipeline for importing Canadian water.
At least pipeline spills would be environmentally benign. And the problem might be that some areas along the way might actually create them.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Mar 22, 2015 7:37:29 GMT -5
This is what happens when governments think they know more than the market about what something should cost. Yep, no doubt about it, the drought is Jerry Brown's fault. Mike |
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Post by brucemacneill on Mar 22, 2015 7:57:27 GMT -5
By nature, Southern California is a dessert. Irrigation has made it inhabitable but it's over populated. Concealed Carry should correct the situation. Think "Mad Max".
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Post by theevan on Mar 22, 2015 7:58:21 GMT -5
Wrong Brown
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Post by Tamarack on Mar 22, 2015 8:13:02 GMT -5
Californians could migrate east and repopulate places like Detroit, Saginaw, Cleveland, Youngstown, etc.
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Post by millring on Mar 22, 2015 8:13:51 GMT -5
Hey, you're from Canada -- largest supply of fresh water in the entire universe. Build a pipeline. You could charge more for the water we won't let you send us via pipeline than you ever could for the oil we won't let you send us via pipeline.
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Post by t-bob on Mar 22, 2015 8:46:04 GMT -5
This is what happens when governments think they know more than the market about what something should cost. Yep, no doubt about it, the drought is Jerry Brown's fault. Mike Arnold's Folly |
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Post by fauxmaha on Mar 22, 2015 8:48:21 GMT -5
Its no individual politician's fault. Its everyone.
Political allocation of resources inevitably leads to scarcity.
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Post by AlanC on Mar 22, 2015 8:57:08 GMT -5
My aunt and cousins still live near my hometown of Fresno. She has lowered her well twice. The drilling company told her if she runs out of water again, there will be nothing they can do. I read a story about a town not far from her that ran out of water. Too many people, too dry, not enough water. The resovoirs are way way down from when I was a kid. Why not a pipeline I wonder. Other than the energy it would take to get that heavy water up and over the sierras. Somebody smart could figure that out- just a matter of money like everything else.
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Post by mnhermit on Mar 22, 2015 9:08:15 GMT -5
They'll steal it from someone else like they've always done.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Mar 22, 2015 9:17:15 GMT -5
Alan, CA has had a pipeline like forever. A open air aqueduct that brought Colorado River water to the southland. Unfortunately, the river is overtapped, and a victim of the western drought.
As far as political allocations go, when in the history of the world have people not formed some kind of governance, that has not made decisions regarding resources for the public or private domain? Politicians, for good or ill represent the interests that put them on office. Complaining about that is just pissing into the wind.
Mike
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Post by Doug on Mar 22, 2015 9:18:13 GMT -5
Already have pipe lines from the Colorado.
I hear the NV militia is closing off I-80, and the AZ Highway Patrol is blocking all the Colorado River bridges from CA. They tried to pump the Columbia to CA in the 80s but kept loosing surveyors in Eastern OR. Drug dealers in CA are switching to selling illegal bottled water.
Once again proving all problems in the world are caused by too many people and not enough sex.
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Post by Doug on Mar 22, 2015 9:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Mar 22, 2015 9:26:48 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out that this activity won't really help. |
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