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Post by jdd2 on Nov 6, 2015 19:58:12 GMT -5
custodial engineer
(uh..., janitor)
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Post by epaul on Nov 6, 2015 19:58:59 GMT -5
I was once considered for the "Marshall County Farmer of the Year" award. My friend Carl was the one that did most of the considering. We were talking about it at the Hobo.
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 6, 2015 20:02:02 GMT -5
You should definitely put that in your resume.
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Post by james on Nov 6, 2015 20:40:41 GMT -5
It's hard to know where to start in describing Carson's obliviousness to reality. Whether it is LGBT rights signalling a neo-Marxist plot to harm America and impose a new world order, whether evolution is an absurd myth or centuries of archaeology are wrong because of what the bible says. Whether sexual orientation is a choice as demonstrated by the way that men go into prison straight and come out gay. There is so much bonkers, I am only scratching the surface. Still, he's a historical footnote soon.
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 6, 2015 20:47:45 GMT -5
You forgot the part where he said gun control allowed the Nazis to carry out their evil intentions.
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Post by patrick on Nov 6, 2015 21:57:45 GMT -5
And the big bang theory was invented by Satan.
Sheldon Cooper would be appalled.
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Post by Doug on Nov 7, 2015 7:48:00 GMT -5
You forgot the part where he said gun control allowed the Nazis to carry out their evil intentions. Sure didn't hurt. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising required 2 division to put down and their gun supply was very limited. Spread that over a few million and it's not likely there would have been enough troops for other things.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 7, 2015 8:21:20 GMT -5
It seems clear to me that when he was in high school his superiors made it clear to Carson that an appointment 2 West Point was his for the asking. I don't think there is any reasonable disputing of that. So what is his crime here? I think there is every reason to dispute that. His crime is that he is delusional and leading the polls for the Rs. Mike
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Post by theevan on Nov 7, 2015 8:50:23 GMT -5
It seems clear to me that when he was in high school his superiors made it clear to Carson that an appointment 2 West Point was his for the asking. I don't think there is any reasonable disputing of that. So what is his crime here? I think there is every reason to dispute that. His crime is that he is delusional and leading the polls for the Rs. Mike And how is that different from the D slate? Press and Gotcha-pundits will play Whack-a-Mole with whoever bobs to the top of the R charts. Just watch with whoever is next. (Whomever?)
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Post by godotwaits on Nov 7, 2015 8:53:48 GMT -5
godot just rolls his eyes...
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Post by Fingerplucked on Nov 7, 2015 11:04:03 GMT -5
I think there is every reason to dispute that. His crime is that he is delusional and leading the polls for the Rs. Mike And how is that different from the D slate? Press and Gotcha-pundits will play Whack-a-Mole with whoever bobs to the top of the R charts. Just watch with whoever is next. (Whomever?) You're right, of course. It's the nature of the game. And nothing else would make sense. I mean, unless they do something remarkable, who wants to hear some pundit slamming Lindsey Graham? Republicans don't care what he's up to, so why should Democrats? But if he somehow rises up into the top tier, then he'll come under closer scrutiny by both Democrats and Republicans. The difference will be that the Fox crowd will highlight his strengths while the MSNBC crowd will highlight his weaknesses. The "gotcha" term bothers me though. It implies that the media is somehow at fault. It's a defense, a way to deflect criticism away from the candidate and back onto the source of the criticism. Gotcha is the media's job. Gotcha is Hillary's emails. Gotcha is Obama's promise not to put boots on the ground in Syria. Gotcha is Bernie Sanders' (limited) opposition to gun control. Gotcha is good. But gotcha is never used in praise of the press. In common usage, gotcha is used only when someone can't think of a good defense that directly responds to the criticism. Gotcha is lazy thinking and/or a response to charges that are indefensible. Not that there's anything wrong with positive coverage. There are times when the media should be fawning over a candidate. The most recent example was that video I (almost) posted in the other thread of Chris Christie on addiction. Whether you're red or blue, that's something to like. I'd also include Hillary's composure during the eight hour Benghazi hearing. Whether you think the Benghazi thing is a trumped up witch hunt as I do or that Hillary is the cold-blooded embodiment of evil, you should be able to see how remarkable she was when you compare it to the presidential hopefuls on the Republican side that can't handle two hours of questioning by CNBC moderators without complaining and crying foul. And, because I might have been the only Soundholer who watched the Democratic forum last night (purely by accident), I'd include Bernie Sanders on two counts. One, he's funny. I didn't know he had it in him. The other was his belief that everyone ought to be automatically registered to vote when they turn 18, no exceptions. He went on to call Republicans cowards and that if someone thinks that they have to manipulate who gets to vote in order to win an election, they should get another job. Those are just examples, and they're skewed a little more towards my team than the other. My point is that the media's job is to show us both sides, and if they want anyone to pay attention, they should be spending most of their time on the candidates we're most interested in. "Gotcha" is just part of the picture we want from them.
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Post by Doug on Nov 7, 2015 11:08:12 GMT -5
I agree that gotya is the press' job.
Over all excluding elections I think they could do a lot better job.
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Post by drlj on Nov 7, 2015 12:12:56 GMT -5
None of this matters as Kanye West has announced he is running for President in 2020. Hope lies in the future, as opposed to Carson lying in the past.
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Post by TKennedy on Nov 7, 2015 12:33:53 GMT -5
This bothers me a lot more.
According to a CNN headline, Carson had an "extensive relationship" from 2004 to 2014 with Mannatech, Inc., a multi-level marketing company that produces dietary supplements made from substances such as aloe vera extract and larch-tree bark.[36][37][38] Carson gave four paid speeches at company events, but he denies having been paid by Mannatech to do anything else, and says he has been a "prolific speaker" who has spoken before many groups.[39]
On August 7, 2002, Carson underwent surgery for prostate cancer,[40] and in an interview in November of that year, he stated that the surgery had successfully removed all cancerous tissue and that he was completely cured of the disease.[41] However, in a 2004 speech at a Mannatech event, Carson credited the company's products for the disappearance of his prostate cancer symptoms.[36][37] Carson's relationship with Mannatech continued after the company paid $7 million in 2009 to settle a deceptive-marketing lawsuit in Texas over claims that its products could cure autism and cancer.[42][43][36] Carson's most recent paid speech for Mannatech was in 2013, for which he was paid $42,000; his image appeared on the corporation's website as recently as 2014,[36] and in the same year he praised their “glyconutrient” supplements in a PBS special that was subsequently featured on the site.[44]
Carson delivered the keynote address at a Mannatech distributor convention in 2011 during which he claimed that the company had donated funds to help him get a coveted endowed chair post at Johns Hopkins Medicine. Carson had stated “well three years ago I had an endowed chair bestowed upon me and uh, it requires $2.5 million to do an endowed chair and I’m proud to say that part of that $2.5 million came from Mannatech.” In October 2015, Carson’s campaign team claimed that, in fact, “there was no contribution from Mannatech to Johns Hopkins.” A campaign spokesman added: “It was a legitimate mistake on his part. Confusion. He had been doing some fundraising for the hospital and some other chairs about that time, and he simply got things mixed up.”[45]
When questioned about his relationship with the company at the October 28, 2015, CNBC GOP debate, Carson said, "That's easy to answer. I didn't have any involvement with [Mannatech]. Total propaganda. I did a couple speeches for them. I did speeches for other people - they were paid speeches. It is absolutely absurd to say I had any kind of relation with them. Do I take the product? Yes. I think it is a good product."[46] Politifact rated that statement as "false," pointing to Carson's paid speeches for the firm and his appearances in promotional videos in which he gave favorable reviews to its products, despite not being "an official spokesman or sales associate."[38] But when the CNBC moderator stated in a follow question that Carson was on the company's website, Carson said that he did not give the company permission to do so, and the debate crowd loudly booed the moderator's follow-up question. Carson had earlier attempted to distance himself from the company, stating that he was unaware of the company's legal history.[47]
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Post by Chesapeake on Nov 7, 2015 12:47:33 GMT -5
... Press and Gotcha-pundits will play Whack-a-Mole with whoever bobs to the top of the R charts. Just watch with whoever is next. (Whomever?) Bill seems to be on lunch break, so I'll take this one. "Whoever" is the subject of the clause, "whoever is next," and thus takes the subjective, not objective, case.
Um, right Bill?
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Post by billhammond on Nov 7, 2015 12:54:38 GMT -5
... Press and Gotcha-pundits will play Whack-a-Mole with whoever bobs to the top of the R charts. Just watch with whoever is next. (Whomever?) Bill seems to be on lunch break, so I'll take this one. "Whoever" is the subject of the clause, "whoever is next," and thus takes the subjective, not objective, case.
Um, right Bill?
Gold star, Don. And I literally was on lunch break -- BBQ ribs, yum.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Nov 7, 2015 14:06:21 GMT -5
Since Bill is a member of the gotcha press, I'm wondering which politicians ribs he ate?
Mike
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Nov 7, 2015 21:37:53 GMT -5
When I was a 19-year old college freshman, our campus minister took several of us on a spring break trip to eastern seminaries. We visited Yale Divinity school and stayed overnight. In the evening we played a little basketball in a small gym there. So, technically, I played basketball at Yale. I guess I messed up by not putting that on my resume.
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Post by james on Nov 7, 2015 22:39:55 GMT -5
There are records of General Westmoreland's whereabouts that do not tally with Carson's account.
"In Carson’s 1990 best-selling autobiography, “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story,” the neurosurgeon tells of being offered a scholarship to West Point as a high school senior sometime after having dinner with the U.S. Army’s chief of staff, Gen. William Westmoreland, on Memorial Day 1969.
But Westmoreland’s personal schedule shows the general was not in Detroit on Memorial Day or during the days preceding and following the holiday. His schedule says he was in and around Washington, D.C., that weekend, according to Army archives The Detroit News reviewed Friday."
www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/06/carsons-westmoreland-story-match-records/75328960/
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Post by Village Idiot on Nov 7, 2015 23:52:37 GMT -5
None of this matters as Kanye West has announced he is running for President in 2020. Hope lies in the future, as opposed to Carson lying in the past. Who is Kanye West?
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