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Post by kenlarsson on Apr 29, 2016 12:52:17 GMT -5
It was. Yup, that was our intro to the Airmen. Saw them twice more in smaller venues in Vancouver. Great live band. I wonder what Bobby Black is doing now, because, wow. I'm wondering if you have the same memories of that concert as I do. The Dead were not very good. They spent several minutes between each song tuning up, said tuning not making them sound any better. Turned me off them for years. I never did go see them again, to find out of that was just an aberration, or I was just in a bad mood. Cool. My buddy and I drove out to the coast, including the west side of the island, in an old VW bug and had a blast. My memories of the show are a little vague due to the sunshine, if you know what I mean, but CC and the LPA's made a big impression and I thought (being a Deadhead) that The Dead, although you're right about their raggedy ass approach to stage craft, were pretty terrific although I thought it was way too long. I've never seen another show with a band that I like, that I actually wished would end. What do you mean another song? I saw CC and the LPA twice. The first time was at the University of New Haven in the school gym. Somehow my buddies and I ended up in a hallway backstage with Billy C. Farlow, Bobby Black, Bill Kirchen and some other band members, we were not down to seeds and stems at that time...................The second time I saw them was at the Capitol theater in Passaic NJ. That concert was notable for my friend Dave's car getting broken into and his eight track player being stolen....................
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2016 13:17:17 GMT -5
Well, I like Dale's steel man quite nice. Of course that's not a weepy song. It's the overly melodramatic stuff that makes me want to puke. The venue could benefit from a raised platform (commonly called a "stage"). Seems a bit crowded in there. Which gives the Owners quite a good buck for the bang. But doesn't make for easy music appreciation. But I hang out in a bunch of places like that. It's usually noisy in the back of the room, and more musical nearer to the stage. (There's that word again). But it's nice to have better site lines throughout the room.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 13:37:44 GMT -5
Cool. My buddy and I drove out to the coast, including the west side of the island, in an old VW bug and had a blast. My memories of the show are a little vague due to the sunshine, if you know what I mean, but CC and the LPA's made a big impression and I thought (being a Deadhead) that The Dead, although you're right about their raggedy ass approach to stage craft, were pretty terrific although I thought it was way too long. I've never seen another show with a band that I like, that I actually wished would end. What do you mean another song? I saw CC and the LPA twice. The first time was at the University of New Haven in the school gym. Somehow my buddies and I ended up in a hallway backstage with Billy C. Farlow, Bobby Black, Bill Kirchen and some other band members, we were not down to seeds and stems at that time...................The second time I saw them was at the Capitol theater in Passaic NJ. That concert was notable for my friend Dave's car getting broken into and his eight track player being stolen.................... Talk about end of an era. No more 8 tracks and the damn weed doesn't even have seeds and stems anymore. When it's gone, it's gone. Now there's a song! I'm off to find a pen.
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Post by billhammond on Apr 29, 2016 13:40:28 GMT -5
Sight lines?!!! You crack me up. Ginny's is like 20 by 50 feet -- no trouble seeing anything, or hearing anything.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2016 15:59:59 GMT -5
I can't see the band in your video. Oh, and I also realize Vince is taking a page (or an instrument) out of the Haggard handbook. That whiny pedal steel is a Haggard era icon, and thus appropriate for the tune I guess. But that's also part of why I never got Haggard. Though it was mostly because Okie from Muskegon stuck in the craw of my sensitivity back then, that didn't allow me to appreciate him. That and those weepy sappy pedal steel breaks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 16:02:11 GMT -5
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Post by Marshall on Apr 29, 2016 16:06:31 GMT -5
Oooh. Love that sad one, Duck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 16:31:13 GMT -5
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Post by coachdoc on Apr 29, 2016 19:57:19 GMT -5
The pedal steel is a little too schmaltzy on the Gill tune for me. I'd rather let the voice communicate the emotion instead of that overly weepy steel work. Some pedal steel work is wonderful. But this goes too far in my book. It's too up front. It overwhelms the voice and the sentiment of the song, instead of complimenting it. Balzac. It's perfect.
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Post by coachdoc on Apr 29, 2016 20:10:44 GMT -5
[quote: the trapped aquatic fowl. Reminds me of this great song. www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYw_9thYyY[/quote]Doc: Hmm... Over processed acoustic guitar and cutesy pedal steel. Someone criticised those things recently, I believe. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 23:32:19 GMT -5
Not me and that's a great song from a very good album. You can have yer little girls with Taylors, bud.
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Post by Marshall on Apr 30, 2016 7:23:09 GMT -5
Not me and that's a great song from a very good album. You can have yer little girls with Taylors, bud. The pedal steel is fine in that. The vocal is a little over affected with the deep old country-ism. But the guy's got talent and it's a nice listen. (I'm not criticizing anybody's choice. I'm just defending my long-standing issues with old style country; which are melting away as I get older. . . , I'll shut up now)
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Post by drlj on Apr 30, 2016 7:58:28 GMT -5
I liked it. All of it. Vince Gill will be appearing in Joliet, IL in early May. I am going to try to get tickets.
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Post by coachdoc on Apr 30, 2016 9:18:13 GMT -5
I liked it. All of it. Vince Gill will be appearing in Joliet, IL in early May. I am going to try to get tickets. C'mon, LJ. Take a stand. I like gritty country and pretty women playing finger style on Taylors, even if it means I have to take a workshop with Muriel Anderson. (she is very intimidating.)
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 30, 2016 9:25:59 GMT -5
Hey Marshall. Goggle Dawn Sears and "Sweet Memories" and tell me with a straight face you don't like Papa John's solo.
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Post by coachdoc on Apr 30, 2016 9:35:51 GMT -5
I've been lucky enough to see that lineup of TJ's play that song at the Bluegrass Bunker. It's what started me taking a mostly annual pi;grimace to see them. That was before Gill. Each iteration has been as good as the last, and Dawn is deeply missed, even now.
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Post by drlj on Apr 30, 2016 9:35:59 GMT -5
I liked it. All of it. Vince Gill will be appearing in Joliet, IL in early May. I am going to try to get tickets. C'mon, LJ. Take a stand. I like gritty country and pretty women playing finger style on Taylors, even if it means I have to take a workshop with Muriel Anderson. (she is very intimidating.) There was a rather nice Bluegrass festival held at the Stoney Run park in Hebron, IN for many year. This was back in the late 70's to early 80's. I used to see Muriel Anderson perform there with an all female band called The Wildwood Pickers. She is from the Downers Grove area of IL, which is not all that far away. She played a D-28 that was a lot bigger than she was and she flatpicked the living daylights out of it. I talked to her a couple of times and I remember her saying she was in the band because it was fun. The band consisted of the mother on bass, two daughters on banjo and fiddle, another daughter on guitar and a cousin or something on mandolin. Muriel was on her big D-28. She was pretty young. Of course, so was I, but not as young as her. They wore leather vests, blue and white checked shirts and neckerchiefs, and boots. Very cowgirl looking. This is one of their 3 album covers.
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Post by coachdoc on Apr 30, 2016 9:42:51 GMT -5
This one touches deeply.
Tess Sears tribute to Dawn Sears:
While not as precise, that is unmistakeably her Mom's voice.
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Post by RickW on Apr 30, 2016 10:11:11 GMT -5
Love the Robert Randolph clip. Man, the guys a monster. And that's a different sound from pedal steel.
I stopped feeling that way while listening to Commander Cody, Marshall. They were doing everything in a somewhat satirical fashion, but the Blacks' sheer musicianship made me think again. Now I just love that tone.
They are apparently pretty tough to learn to play. One interview I read in fretboard journal, the player, (can't remember his name,) said he thought it took 15 years before he really reached a peak. I tried lap steel for a bit, but didn't have the fortitude to keep going, just too much time to spend. Maybe when I retire.
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Post by TKennedy on Apr 30, 2016 10:47:07 GMT -5
Steel players appear to be a small and close fraternity. Our Patsy band player who is very good had a stint in Nashville and some offers to go on the road in the 70's but decided it was not the life he wanted. He met and got tips from most of the great ones back then. If we do a gig and there is another steel player in the audience it is not long before the two of them are off in a corner somewhere.
John Ely who played with Asleep At The Wheel and now lives in MN has sub'ed for Randy a few times and it is the same thing. He is amazing.
Apparently even the best are having problems finding work outside of being on the road as there is less steel being used in modern recordings. Wayne Dahl, who was Martina McBride's sideman was in Alexandria recently playing with a local country singer and Randy told me he moved to MN because there was not enough work in Nashville.
Randy has explained to me what is involved in playing a pedal steel and it is intimidating. Looks like flying a helicopter, all four extremities are in use doing different things. The bottom of his instrument looks like the engine room of the Titanic.
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