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Post by brucemacneill on Jul 29, 2016 12:46:02 GMT -5
Speaking of security I just got an e-mail from Social Security informing me that if I log into my account I'll have to give them my text enabled cell phone number starting in August. I don't have a text enabled cell phone and have no reason to have one besides this stupid request. I guess if Obama can force you to buy private insurance he can force you to buy a phone, unless you have an Obama phone I suppose.
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Post by james on Jul 29, 2016 13:29:02 GMT -5
<Reagan/Clinton/Bush phone> "Examples cited above have circulated, claiming that "the Obama administration created a program to give free cell phones paid for by taxpayer money to welfare recipients." All the elements of such statements are erroneous or exaggerated: • The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration. www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp
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Post by Doug on Jul 29, 2016 14:11:55 GMT -5
<Reagan/Clinton/Bush phone> "Examples cited above have circulated, claiming that "the Obama administration created a program to give free cell phones paid for by taxpayer money to welfare recipients." All the elements of such statements are erroneous or exaggerated: • The Lifeline program originated in 1984, during the administration of Ronald Reagan; it was expanded in 1996, during the administration of Bill Clinton; and its first cellular provider service (SafeLink Wireless) was launched by TracFone in 2008, during the administration of George W. Bush. All of these milestones were passed prior to the advent of the Obama administration. www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.aspYep, Democrats and Republicans are equally stupid.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 29, 2016 15:21:27 GMT -5
I have very little against giving homeless cell phones. A cardboard box and a cell phone and you have a chance. Need to be able to chase a job or get your directions on where Fagan wants you to panhandle. Best panhandle sign ever today: 'Yes, this is awkward for me,too.'
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Post by Doug on Jul 29, 2016 15:25:19 GMT -5
Call me a hypocrite. I have a cell phone. I still think being electronically tethered to the world is stupid.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 30, 2016 14:30:32 GMT -5
Call me a hypocrite. I have a cell phone. I still think being electronically tethered to the world is stupid. Right there with ya Doug. Stupid, but absolutely necessary.
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Post by Doug on Jul 30, 2016 14:44:13 GMT -5
Call me a hypocrite. I have a cell phone. I still think being electronically tethered to the world is stupid. Right there with ya Doug. Stupid, but absolutely necessary. But is it necessary? Didn't we get along just fine before cell phones? I know we had to take a list to the grocery store instead of being on the phone to ask "did you mean the red potatoes or the white potatoes?" Necessary for society not necessary for some individuals. A society tethered to the world is kind of a group think. More like a colony than a bunch of individuals. Remember I'm a hypocrite so just food for thought.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 30, 2016 14:51:25 GMT -5
I'd be hard pressed to meet the obligations of my family, medical practice and music avocation without my phone these days. I'm sure I could bump along, but I would be late or unaware of many meetings, obligations and opportunities without it.
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Post by Doug on Jul 30, 2016 14:57:50 GMT -5
I'd be hard pressed to meet the obligations of my family, medical practice and music avocation without my phone these days. I'm sure I could bump along, but I would be late or unaware of many meetings, obligations and opportunities without it. Were you late or unaware in the 90s.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Jul 30, 2016 16:40:20 GMT -5
I'd be hard pressed to meet the obligations of my family, medical practice and music avocation without my phone these days. I'm sure I could bump along, but I would be late or unaware of many meetings, obligations and opportunities without it. Were you late or unaware in the 90s. I started selling to manufacturers in the mid 80s. I may have been through using the first few devices below by the 90s, but maybe not. The first thing I had to do was to figure out who was manufacturing something that used electronic components, like connectors. So I’d stop into a town’s village hall or whatever to get a guide of local businesses and pick out the manufacturers. I’d then start calling around to confirm what they did and who was responsible for purchasing my products. Unless I was on the road, in which case I’d use one of these. I’d set appointments with buyers who could buy my products and/or engineers who could design my products into theirs. And of course I’d keep a master list of all contact data. I plotted my prospects and customers geographically to be more efficient. And I’d carry local maps with me to keep from getting lost. I carried my notes and files with me. As technology moved out of the stone age I started incorporating new tools. I learned to write in a brand new alphabet for one of these. One of my customers proudly displayed his new iPaq, convincing me that I had to have one too. Some of the gadgets I tried didn’t work so well. And some did. And now I can do every one of those things on my smart phone. I didn’t need a smart phone. I would have survived without it. But at this point I would never want to move back to the dark ages.
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Post by Doug on Jul 30, 2016 17:06:22 GMT -5
It's the hive, it's the hive.
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Post by coachdoc on Jul 30, 2016 17:25:14 GMT -5
I'd be hard pressed to meet the obligations of my family, medical practice and music avocation without my phone these days. I'm sure I could bump along, but I would be late or unaware of many meetings, obligations and opportunities without it. Were you late or unaware in the 90s. As a matter of fact, absolutely.
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Post by godotwaits on Jul 30, 2016 17:27:00 GMT -5
Poor lost souls in the forest...directionless for the lack of a compass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 19:15:48 GMT -5
Poor lost souls in the forest...directionless for the lack of a compass. My iPhone has a compass.
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Post by Doug on Jul 30, 2016 19:30:34 GMT -5
Poor lost souls in the forest...directionless for the lack of a compass. My iPhone has a compass. Yeah but the Russians hacked it and when you start south in Feb you will end up at the Nawth Pole.
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Post by lar on Jul 30, 2016 22:44:10 GMT -5
Many new technologies have their positives and negative aspects. The smart phone isn't any different. I use mine mostly for making and receiving calls. But there are a couple of other things I use it for as well. If I didn't have it I doubt if I would miss it much. Next year at this time my attitude might be different.
I understand how the advance of technology has made people more productive and efficient. I'd just as soon not go back to the At-A-Glance calendar and in my line of work I couldn't do a fraction of what I do if I Excel was unavailable to me.
On the downside, I passed a group of young people the other night. I'd say the ranged in age from mid to upper 20s. There must have been a dozen of them. None of them were conversing. Each one had a smart phone and was engrossed in whatever app they were using. I'm not so sure that's a good thing. But it's a better past time than spray painting graffiti or robbing convenience stores.
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Post by jdd2 on Jul 31, 2016 1:36:45 GMT -5
What was that Wim Wenders film that ended up with everyone absorbed in some phone-like personal device?
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