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Post by PaulKay on Sept 1, 2016 20:56:49 GMT -5
Yup. Far easier to get than I thought.
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Post by Village Idiot on Sept 1, 2016 21:24:45 GMT -5
You're in Arizona now, right?
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Post by Doug on Sept 1, 2016 21:30:38 GMT -5
I heard it's pricey. I haven't pursued for a couple of reason. cost, nearest pot Dr. is Havasu, and I don't want to be labeled PTSD.
My guess you won't need it come election. 3 states around here on ballot. These are just my guesses. CA pass for sure, NV not likely, AZ close but leaning toward passing (more so as the court just struck down the last of the anti attempts to block it from getting on ballot)
FL surprises me in the fierce opposition to medical.
Except for DC the marijuana legislation push has come from the west.* I'm interested to see what happens in the east and mid west. I haven't been following who's voting on what around the country just here regionally. It's been 50+ yrs since the hippies brought marijuana out to the general public. Boy were we naive, we thought we would be where we are now in a couple of years.
*giving us two possibilitys: The west is full of pot heads or the west is full of people who don't give a damn what others do.
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Post by PaulKay on Sept 1, 2016 21:42:13 GMT -5
Yes, in AZ now VI. The evaluation is $150, the state takes an additional $150, and if you need a pain consult it's an additional $50. It also needs to be renewed every year at a cost of $285. Doug, I hope the referendum passes ot legalize recreational use. But not holding my breath. A lot of law and order types here that oppose,it.
I haven't touched the stuff in 35 years, but the osteoarthritis is enough motivation to try it again. If it works, it works. If not, it was worth a try. Getting old is a bitch....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:31:42 GMT -5
Come to 420 evaluations in beautiful Oildale, CA. Dr Toke will evaluate you via Skype in 5 minutes for $50. Renewals are $40. My drummer friend has 7 ruptured discs and stenosis. He is "ripped to the tits" on a daily basis. I have taken two people to get cards, both suffering from migraines. Another friend who grows top shelf medicinal herb has blown out knees from skiing and smokes alotapotamus.
For the record, I don't have a card and don't smoke. A friend who owns a medium sized guitar company had this to say:
" Have you noticed that pot is stronger and LSD is weaker than it was in the 60s and 70s?"
My current drugs are caffeine from a cup and ice cream from a container.
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Post by Marshall on Sept 2, 2016 5:29:41 GMT -5
Just think, if you had to pay $285 a year to renew your beer license ?
There'd be a revolution !
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Post by Doug on Sept 2, 2016 6:40:27 GMT -5
I think most of the opposition is by people who's rice bowl will be broken.
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Post by PaulKay on Sept 2, 2016 7:31:45 GMT -5
Just think, if you had to pay $285 a year to renew your beer license ? There'd be a revolution ! Which is why legalization for recreational use is the best solution. Even with that, the current referendum has a 15% tax on anything sold.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Sept 2, 2016 7:43:43 GMT -5
Meanwhile, there is a news story out of WA that reports the Washington ferrys are having problems with people driving their cars onto the ferrys and then walking off the ferry at their destination FORGETTING their cars.
Mike
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Post by Doug on Sept 2, 2016 7:50:00 GMT -5
Meanwhile, there is a news story out of WA that reports the Washington ferrys are having problems with people driving their cars onto the ferrys and then walking off the ferry at their destination FORGETTING their cars. Mike But that's not new. People were doing that back in the '70s CRS
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 8:26:22 GMT -5
I bet I could find some and not pay anything but the price of the item. Who knew? Legalization is stupid. Decriminalization and normalization is the way to go. It's a plant.
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Post by dradtke on Sept 2, 2016 8:42:27 GMT -5
Medical is legal in Minnesota but only in liquid or pill form, and I've heard it's quite expensive. I don't know anyone with a card, but if hard-pressed I might be able to find a few who rely on the old-fashioned traditional methods of delivery.
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Post by factorychef on Sept 2, 2016 8:44:35 GMT -5
I made my own card off the Internet. Except it's only good in Texas. Yikes!!!
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Post by Marshall on Sept 2, 2016 9:06:19 GMT -5
Meanwhile, there is a news story out of WA that reports the Washington ferrys are having problems with people driving their cars onto the ferrys and then walking off the ferry at their destination FORGETTING their cars. Mike It's caled, "Parking."
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Post by Marshall on Sept 2, 2016 9:07:14 GMT -5
Just think, if you had to pay $285 a year to renew your beer license ? There'd be a revolution ! Which is why legalization for recreational use is the best solution. Even with that, the current referendum has a 15% tax on anything sold. Cha-ching !
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Post by PaulKay on Sept 2, 2016 11:48:24 GMT -5
Which is why legalization for recreational use is the best solution. Even with that, the current referendum has a 15% tax on anything sold. Cha-ching !I see it as something that will keep property taxes down since the revenue must be used for education and healthcare funding. Like the lottery was supposed to do.
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Post by Lonnie on Sept 2, 2016 14:11:03 GMT -5
I qualify, but I've looked at the costs, and they're just ridiculous. Being a 19 year recovered alcoholic, I did a lot of soul searching, had a lot of conversations with Patti, my doctor, friends in recovery and friends with personal accounts of the healing properties of the substance in question. All are in agreement that used conscientiously, I'm on safe ground. It's been a godsend for pain and well being.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Sept 2, 2016 17:17:58 GMT -5
I don't smoke dope, that's my choice. But there is no doubt in my mind that it should be legal. There is also no doubt that no one should operate a vehicle while they are impaired, but human nature being what it is.... No good solutions to this. There seems (to me) to be enough anecdotal evidence about its effectiveness in managing pain that government funded studies should be ongoing, but politics and entrenched positions seem to keep that from happening. We are one fucked up species.
Mike
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Post by brucemacneill on Sept 2, 2016 17:53:10 GMT -5
I don't smoke dope, that's my choice. But there is no doubt in my mind that it should be legal. There is also no doubt that no one should operate a vehicle while they are impaired, but human nature being what it is.... No good solutions to this. There seems (to me) to be enough anecdotal evidence about its effectiveness in managing pain that government funded studies should be ongoing, but politics and entrenched positions seem to keep that from happening. We are one fucked up species. Mike I thought I had heard that the FDA was going to start a study. Maybe this is what I'm remembering: www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm421163.htm
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 18:07:20 GMT -5
I don't smoke dope, that's my choice. But there is no doubt in my mind that it should be legal. There is also no doubt that no one should operate a vehicle while they are impaired, but human nature being what it is.... No good solutions to this. There seems (to me) to be enough anecdotal evidence about its effectiveness in managing pain that government funded studies should be ongoing, but politics and entrenched positions seem to keep that from happening. We are one fucked up species. Mike The problem with that is establishing the degree of impairment. If it actually exists and how to measure it. I don't smoke anymore but I don't think it ever made me "impaired" as far as driving is concerned. In fact, I was a better driver than if I had beer.
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