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Post by theevan on Jan 12, 2017 7:32:48 GMT -5
Interesting article in the Beeb. I've never read up on Leary...didn't know he ran for governor against Reagan.  The story caught my interest because I know my parents experimented with acid in the early-mid 60s. I very much doubt it was through this movement, though. More likely through the Owsley/Kesey strain given our Bay Area location. I didn't know this group was the thing behind Rainbow Bridge. www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170112-the-lsd-cult-that-terrified-america |
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Post by Russell Letson on Jan 12, 2017 11:12:16 GMT -5
When I first read the thread title I transposed a couple of letters and thought, "Wow, I know they pretty much took over Utah. . . ."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 12:07:04 GMT -5
My son and I recently had an in depth discussion about the Brotherhood, Owsley Stanley, and othe LSD chemists.
I first took acid in 1969 when I was 13. It was given to me by a 21 year old by the name of Janis, who was dating my oldest brother. She called it Pink Harvard because she was told it had been created in a chem lab at Harvard. I took half and laughed all day long. It was a very enjoyable way to drive from Oregon to California as a passenger in a 1958 VW van with my dog, Klondike. I followed up with acid named Cnnamon, Orange Sunshine, Purple Barrel, blotter, and other nameless concoctions in pink gel capsules.
Most trips were mellow, but a couple were frighteningly intense with hallucinations coupled with stark fear.
I turned another brother on to LSD and he took far more trips than I.
In a side note, A man named Hoover in Santa Cruz once said, "Matt, have you noticed that acid is weaker and pot is stronger now than it was in the 70s?"
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Post by Don Clark on Jan 12, 2017 12:23:28 GMT -5
First time at 17, a Jr. in HS 1968. Completely lost count.
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Post by billhammond on Jan 12, 2017 12:53:10 GMT -5
Happy to report that I have never ingested any psychedelics, nor cocaine, nor opiates, nor anything else like dem dere. I used to smoke weed and occasional hashish when I was in Iceland and some weed after I got out of the Navy, but that got old before long, and now all my meds are for blood pressure, cholesterol, acid reflux and such.
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Post by epaul on Jan 12, 2017 13:17:48 GMT -5
My favorite pill to pop is the blue one. The grape-flavored Flintstone vitamin is second. That is one tasty pill.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 12, 2017 13:57:00 GMT -5
I kept my drugs down to nicotine and alcohol other than the occasional aspirin or Benadryl. I have a couple of bottles of opioids left over from the recent surgeries but never took more than 2 pills from them just to get through the first day.
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Post by Doug on Jan 12, 2017 14:03:15 GMT -5
Don't take the brown acid.  |
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Post by millring on Jan 12, 2017 17:24:50 GMT -5
I got drunk a few times. Maybe three.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 17:59:55 GMT -5
I always thought that Leary was the target of one of the greatest cases of media and political character assassination ever perpetrated. After all, he was transformed from one of the most respected psychologist/clinician/scientists in the country into an idiot and danger to society overnight. Anyone interested should read his autobiography "Flashbacks". It would make a terrific movie. As for the substance ... the ride on Albert's bike is better than Space Mountain and ... chocolate.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 18:27:56 GMT -5
After reading the article, they sound like a bunch of wankers. I was always (mostly) more of a Kesey style prankster/realist than a groovy love bead kind of guy. Jean jackets and Dylan over Donovan and kaftans any day.
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Post by frazer on Jan 12, 2017 18:35:00 GMT -5
'Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream' by Jay Stevens is a good book for anyone wanting to read about mushroom cults, psilocybin and LSD.
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Post by james on Jan 12, 2017 18:40:19 GMT -5
Sort of related. There is a podcast series called "Roam Schooled". A Dad and his two young twin daughters travel around in a camper-bus exploring subjects and questions that the kids have. I thought the episode "What is a Hippy? " was a refreshing and sometimes rather lovely listen. It's here. www.roamschooled.com/episode-8/ |
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Post by dradtke on Jan 12, 2017 19:10:08 GMT -5
Interesting article, but not all that transformative. I stuck with weed and hash, and being mellow to start with gave it up when I realized the extra mellow just put me to sleep..
New pot, by the way, is a lot different than old pot.
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 12, 2017 19:23:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 19:50:42 GMT -5
Tom Wolfe's 'Electric Koolaid Acid Test' about Kesey and the Merry Pranksters is a good read, as well.
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Post by Doug on Jan 12, 2017 19:59:31 GMT -5
Interesting article, but not all that transformative. I stuck with weed and hash, and being mellow to start with gave it up when I realized the extra mellow just put me to sleep.. New pot, by the way, is a lot different than old pot. Not really, that is a myth. Old pot varied from Thai stick stuff in VN to Mexican Dirt weed in CA. The Thai stick was twice as strong as any thing you can buy in a WA pot store (even the stuff they say will knock your dick in the dirt) and some of the Dirt Weed was so bad you had to smoke 2 big fatties to even feel it at all. Some of the domestic from the Olympics in the early 70s was about the same as what you can buy in a WA pot store. All of this the new is different than the old is based on comparing it to Mexican Dirt Weed. But it makes for good headlines. |
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 12, 2017 20:16:13 GMT -5
... Thai stick stuff in VN ... Wasn't that laced tho, with a little something extra? |
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Post by Doug on Jan 12, 2017 20:29:16 GMT -5
... Thai stick stuff in VN ... Wasn't that laced tho, with a little something extra? No, more propaganda. |
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Post by james on Jan 12, 2017 20:41:12 GMT -5
You can still find Thai stick in Thailand. Strongest weed I've ever smoked. Three or four puffs and you're spectacularly zonked for hours and hours. Full on trippy visuals. Hammock an absolute necessity. The 20-30% THC skunk strains that you can find widely these days are certainly a whole lot stronger than the sensimillia and hash of my my youth.
I will have perhaps a dozen puffs on a spliff a year these days. Don't do much of anything else anymore either.
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