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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jan 23, 2019 13:04:44 GMT -5
Fender has introduced it's new Acoustasonic Telecaster. Does anyone have an opinion about/interest in it? Here is a demo from the Sweetwater site. (Brian, the demo guy, used to work for Taylor. I saw him at a road show.)
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Post by Marshall on Jan 23, 2019 13:13:50 GMT -5
Demo looks/sounds terrific. But most promo videos do.
I really like the look of the thing and the concept. But I'm afraid it will have the Fender 25.5 slim neck. And I doubt there's any other option in that regard. Plus I'm not really an electric player. I already have a funky but cool Strat with an Epiphone neck on it. And a very nice acoustic with a pickup and pedal system that I'm quite pleased with. And lastly my bank account whispers in my ear (DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THIS BULLSHIT! STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER SCREEN. YOUR WALLET HAS BEEN QUARANTINED!)
I'd like to see one in the flesh, though. Just for yucks.
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Post by amanajoe on Jan 23, 2019 13:18:37 GMT -5
To quote the website "A mix of classic analog and future technologies, the Fender and Fishman®-designed Acoustic Engine delivers a curated collection of acoustic and electric voices. " emphasis added by me.
So this must mean that Line6's patent has run out or that they are working around it somehow. The guitar makes some noise but you are really playing through a digital signal processor that makes the actual sounds.
They made it hollow to get some body resonance. My biggest issue with these designs (especially the Line6) is that the resonance and feeling of the guitar that I hear up close is nothing like the sound that comes out of the speakers of the amp it is plugged into. Really messes with your head.
It appears that the USB is only for charging the battery and not for uploading any changes to the "curated collection" so that may be how they are getting around Line6.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 23, 2019 13:20:22 GMT -5
I guess I hadn't seen this video. I've seen another. This one the pickup sounds quacky to me. Like a piezo should. I would have thought that Larry Fishman would do a better job at modeling out that harsh sound. I doubt a ToneDexter would help this, because I wouldn't expect the acoustic sound of the unplugged guitar would be rich enough to want to be replicated. I'm sure (I expect) that this will fill the bill for many a working musician that plays regularly in wedding bands and such.
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Post by amanajoe on Jan 23, 2019 13:24:33 GMT -5
Demo looks/sounds terrific. But most promo videos do. I really like the look of the thing and the concept. But I'm afraid it will have the Fender 25.5 slim neck. And I doubt there's any other option in that regard. Plus I'm not really an electric player. I already have a funky but cool Strat with an Epiphone neck on it. And a very nice acoustic with a pickup and pedal system that I'm quite pleased with. And lastly my bank account whispers in my ear (DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THIS BULLSHIT! STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER SCREEN. YOUR WALLET HAS BEEN QUARANTINED!) I'd like to see one in the flesh, though. Just for yucks. It is still a bolt on neck, wonder if it could be changed with a conversion neck to 24.75"?
Seems a bit pricey for what it is (especially since they covered it in polyester finish instead of lacquer).
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 23, 2019 13:27:29 GMT -5
Part of the wanton flap™️ exhibited in the video is undoubtably the electric action and skinny strings. The source has to be at least as good as the destination, in all things acoustic and amplified. Not a guitar for me, but the 80’s guys with a camaro, two ex-wives, and the "Bon Jovi box set" will love it.
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Post by RickW on Jan 23, 2019 13:40:44 GMT -5
It would be a great gigging guitar in the right situation. I wonder how it sounds completely acoustic; for me, to be able to play the thing on the couch while not plugged in would be nice.
Great concept. No idea how expensive. I have guitars that do all that stuff, so I wouldn’t, but if I was gigging, depending on the music I was doing....
One thing I do really like, is that ebony fretboard. So much ebony got tossed because it wasn’t all black. I think that broad stripe looks amazing.
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Post by PaulKay on Jan 23, 2019 13:44:00 GMT -5
Looks nice. I like the shaved edges for the armrest.
Functionally it seems very much like the Godin line of thin body acoustics.
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 23, 2019 13:45:26 GMT -5
Why waste a perfectly good electric guitar?
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 23, 2019 14:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by majorminor on Jan 23, 2019 14:14:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't ______ that with your _______
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Post by Marshall on Jan 23, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -5
It is still a bolt on neck, wonder if it could be changed with a conversion neck to 24.75"? True dat. That's what I did with my Strat. I bought a Warmouth neck. But didn't like the feel. I had the Epi neck sitting here for the cigarbox guitar I was planning to build (but never will). I liked that neck. So I had a luthier friend mount the epi neck on the strat.
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Post by lar on Jan 23, 2019 15:01:20 GMT -5
Years ago Fender had a similar product shaped like a Strat. I doubt if the electronics were nearly as advanced as the new model. Still, the thing was pretty much a bomb and Fender finally gave up on it. I played one once in a store and wasn't impressed with anything about it.
From a pure acoustic standpoint I'd be wary of getting much in the way of an unplugged sound from it. The body is thin so I don't foresee a lot of volume. And it's not built like an acoustic so I wouldn't expect it to sound like one.
About 15 years ago I got tired of lugging both electric and an acoustic guitars to my gigs. I bought a Carvin AE185 (Carvin guitars no longer exist. They sold the line to Kiesel). It had a chambered Tele style body with a piezo in the bridge and humbucker neck and bridge pickups with coil taps. It didn't sound like anything unplugged but I was very surprised at how it sounded when plugged in. The piezo had the typical "quack" but I was able to get rid of that with cheap Alesis acoustic multi-effects pedal. When I ran it through our sound system the acoustic sound was very close to most acoustic/electric guitars of the time.
The major drawback was that when we played the Moose Lodge in West Bend, WI (which we did frequently) the the guitar picked up a local FM station and broadcast it quite clearly through my amp. When I bought my HD-28 the Carvin couldn't compete and I got rid of it.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 23, 2019 15:23:50 GMT -5
. . . , The major drawback was that when we played the Moose Lodge in West Bend, WI (which we did frequently) the the guitar picked up a local FM station and broadcast it quite clearly through my amp. I would think that would go over big at the Moose Lodge.
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Post by dradtke on Jan 23, 2019 16:58:26 GMT -5
when we played the Moose Lodge in West Bend, WI (which we did frequently) the the guitar picked up a local FM station and broadcast it quite clearly through my amp. Boy, that fella's good! He sounds just like the record!
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Post by lar on Jan 23, 2019 16:58:28 GMT -5
. . . , The major drawback was that when we played the Moose Lodge in West Bend, WI (which we did frequently) the the guitar picked up a local FM station and broadcast it quite clearly through my amp. I would think that would go over big at the Moose Lodge. We didn't need the competition. LOL!
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Post by david on Jan 23, 2019 17:55:01 GMT -5
One thing I do really like, is that ebony fretboard. So much ebony got tossed because it wasn’t all black. I think that broad stripe looks amazing. I agree! I believe that much of the wood is wasted because the wood is the wrong color. As to the guitar - do you have to change from an acoustic amp to an electric amp for different settings?
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 23, 2019 19:09:57 GMT -5
One thing I do really like, is that ebony fretboard. So much ebony got tossed because it wasn’t all black. I think that broad stripe looks amazing. I agree! I believe that much of the wood is wasted because the wood is the wrong color. As to the guitar - do you have to change from an acoustic amp to an electric amp for different settings? Typically acoustic amps are not capable of anything above a few notches below "Stun". Being that bad ass takes an electric amp. With tubes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 19:15:35 GMT -5
And mojo, Peter. Tubes AND mojo.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 23, 2019 19:32:53 GMT -5
The video I saw talked about spitting the output signal from the Mags and the Piezo. So maybe it has a stereo jack out in order to do that. None of that was explained in the video I saw.
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