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Post by jdd2 on Jan 24, 2019 18:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by billhammond on Jan 24, 2019 19:18:15 GMT -5
Sure would be nice to know what the methodology was here -- let's guess that what was being measured and presented was the highest percentage of any brand of car sold (only new? used? cars registered, or what?) and what state that was. If it was pure numbers of those brands sold per state, and not accounting for population differences, it's a meaningless exercise.
For example, considering that Illinois has a huge Mitsu plant, it does not surprise me that they lead the nation in Mitsu sales, whether that is actual number of vehicles sold or per capita percentage.
But it's all a mystery unless I missed some explanation of the methodology.
Lots of money in Texas, lots of Lamborghinis sold there, but what does that really mean? More than in any other state? More per capita? It's just random shit, really.
If multiple states show the same brand as being their "obsession," what does that mean? Texas, Nevada and Florida have a lot of Lamborghinis, but in what meaningful reference to, say, California?
The more I look at this chart, the more meaningless and bogus it becomes.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 24, 2019 19:30:40 GMT -5
Well if I had money Tell you what I'd do I'd go downtown and buy a mercury or two Crazy 'bout a mercury Lord I'm crazy bout a mercury I'm gonna buy me a mercury And cruise it up and down this road.
Mike
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 24, 2019 19:41:31 GMT -5
BS. Go to Maine and all you'll see is Subarus. Some towns look like Subaru dealer lots.
They didn't check the Eastern Shore of Virginia. Acura? Forgot to count Ford F150s. They must have just surveyed Fairfax County.
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Post by dradtke on Jan 24, 2019 19:43:42 GMT -5
It says based on consumer search data. Hard to believe that many people are googling Buicks in Minnesota.
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Post by Dub on Jan 24, 2019 19:45:28 GMT -5
I’m guessing the measured what car people like best or wished they owned or something. As far as what people actually buy, I think Toyota sometimes tops the sales charts and sometimes Ford. I don’t think other makers rise above third place. My info may be old.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 24, 2019 19:58:16 GMT -5
I don't think this is the highest selling vehicle in any given state. It's just which state is the highest percentage of all such models sold in the country. There certainly aren't more Lamborghinis sold in Texas than Chevys. It's just that there is a higher percentage of Lamborghinis in Texas than any other sate in the union (per capita I expect).
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 24, 2019 20:23:48 GMT -5
Sure would be nice to know what the methodology was here -- let's guess that what was being measured and presented was the highest percentage of any brand of car sold (only new? used? cars registered, or what?) and what state that was. If it was pure numbers of those brands sold per state, and not accounting for population differences, it's a meaningless exercise. For example, considering that Illinois has a huge Mitsu plant, it does not surprise me that they lead the nation in Mitsu sales, whether that is actual number of vehicles sold or per capita percentage. But it's all a mystery unless I missed some explanation of the methodology. Lots of money in Texas, lots of Lamborghinis sold there, but what does that really mean? More than in any other state? More per capita? It's just random shit, really. If multiple states show the same brand as being their "obsession," what does that mean? Texas, Nevada and Florida have a lot of Lamborghinis, but in what meaningful reference to, say, California? The more I look at this chart, the more meaningless and bogus it becomes. Electric cars (all of them) are something in the nieghborhood of a 1% share nationwide. And Tesla is the big dog in 2 states? You've gotta be kidding me.
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Post by david on Jan 24, 2019 22:41:17 GMT -5
"Using consumer search data at the state level, Sisco was able to determine which car brand each state was most obsessed with relative to the national average."
I am with Bill and Peter - I do not know what the heck this means. Perhaps just click bait.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 24, 2019 22:43:26 GMT -5
Electric cars (all of them) are something in the nieghborhood of a 1% share nationwide. And Tesla is the big dog in 2 states? You've gotta be kidding me. What it means is of that 1% there are probably 25% of them in California. Whereas there are maybe 1% (or .01% of all Teslas sold) in Iowa. If there are 100k Teslas sold nationally, there'd be 25k of them in California (using my example). Yet we know there are more than 25k Chevys in California. (Again I'm guessing at numbers. Just trying to illustrate what they are saying.) This means there are more Tesla enthusiasts in California than anywhere else. Even so, the number of Teslas in California is far less than the number of Chevys in California. But the rest of the country likes Chevys too, so the percentage of Chevy Sales in California vs the whole country will be less than my example of 25% of Tesla sales. In other words this graph means nothing.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 24, 2019 22:54:58 GMT -5
I'm ok with Mazda in WA, but I'm calling bullshit on Suzuki in Idaho. And Kansas. If there was an editorial mistake, and they actually meant "Subaru" instead of "Suzuki," that would be far easier to swallow. There are Subaru foresters and Outbacks all over the place in Idaho, at least. JMO.
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Post by Dub on Jan 24, 2019 22:59:33 GMT -5
Isn’t California our most populous state? I’m guessing California buys the highest percentage of every car sold in the US.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 24, 2019 23:51:06 GMT -5
Isn’t California our most populous state? I’m guessing California buys the highest percentage of every car sold in the US. Maybe the highest number. But the percentage is per-capita. So the total number doesn't matter. If California has 100 people and 10 of them buy Chevys, that's 10%. But if Iowa has 10 people and 2 of them buy Chevys that's 20%. (Even though California bought 5 times as many Chevys).
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Post by RickW on Jan 25, 2019 0:12:52 GMT -5
I didn’t think it was that hard. “Consumer search data” can pretty much mean only one thing, what was searched for on the internet. Now, you don’t know why anyone was searching, though, maybe if as Bill said there is a big Mitsu plant there, people are looking for jobs there.
But I’d assume they are looking at number of searches for each make by state. What they mean by comparing it to the national average is confusing.
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Post by majorminor on Jan 25, 2019 8:55:04 GMT -5
Yeah - lotta Dodges in Montana. Income levels are still pretty rural, everybody wants a truck, and they make the cheapest one. I still think the F150 is the most common vehicle around here though.
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Post by PaulKay on Jan 25, 2019 9:02:55 GMT -5
Texas is obsessed with Lamborghini? Really?
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Post by dradtke on Jan 25, 2019 11:09:56 GMT -5
Texas is obsessed with Lamborghini? Really? The three guys in Texas who know how to spell it are.
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Post by mrpaul on Jan 25, 2019 11:10:54 GMT -5
Interesting that Jeep is so popular in Colorado. Don't folks talk to owners of a brand before making a purchase? Perhaps the study methodology involves just counting cars parked in front of the local NAPA Auto Parts store?
Subaru is not listed in a single state as most popular by study criteria. Around here you can't toss a spent roach without hitting a Subaru.
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Post by Fingerplucked on Jan 25, 2019 12:08:40 GMT -5
It says based on consumer search data. Hard to believe that many people are googling Buicks in Minnesota. It looks like only one person read your post. Now it’s two. So what they’re saying is that the cars shown are the cars people know the least about. For instance, people in Texas interested in Italian cooking are now thinking they’re being unfairly targeted by sports car ads.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 25, 2019 13:36:42 GMT -5
Not to keep beating this dead suzuki horse, but a quick search reveals that suzuki hasn’t even sold a car in the US since 2012. I know that ID, AK, and KS are perpetually behind the times, but that’s a pretty major boner in the old proof reading dept. i mean, if they had a proof reading dept. Or real journalists.
#fakenews. Or, at least #sloppynews. So what else is new these days: if someone believes anything they read on the internet at this point, that’s on them.
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