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Post by jdd2 on Jan 26, 2019 19:48:53 GMT -5
How would you do that?
I've had a string of passports for ages, since about '74 at least. Those are based on my birth certificate, at least at the start of that chain. I think I still have my original birth certificate somewhere (with some footprints attached)..., but if one and/or the other was challenged, I'm not sure what my next step would be--SS card, DD 214? Would a 23-and-me DNA test be of any value (showing my sibs and I were sibs)? Baby pics with a still recognizable house in the background?
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Post by epaul on Jan 26, 2019 19:57:26 GMT -5
I've got bills and canceled checks linking me to the Hobo Haus since 1973.
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 26, 2019 20:05:11 GMT -5
Your birth certificate with the footprints wouldn't be acceptable since it was issued by the hospital and not the government. Mary and I had those when we applied for passports but they weren't what they wanted. They wanted a certificate from the town or county we were born in. We had to buy those from the counties. Those were the only certificates they'd accept. We were able to order them on-line from Massachusetts. I assume that would be the way to get one unless you happen to be close to your place of birth and can get to the office in person. It took a few weeks. Mary's was screwed up which made it worse. Her county had her as Mary Margaret Beals. She's Mary Allison Beals but she has a twin sister Margaret. They only had one certificate on file, Mary Margaret. Her twin does still live up there and was able to get their baptism records from the church they attended as kids, take those to the county office along with the priest or a letter from the priest, I don't remember, and get it straightened out. They had had the same problem when they got drivers licenses and thought it had been fixed then but apparently not. For the licenses their father had taken both girls to the office to prove they were 2 twin girls. We had to produce our marriage license too to explain her last name. It was a pain in the ass especially because we had already booked a cruise thinking the passports would be easy. Nothing's ever easy.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Jan 26, 2019 20:06:15 GMT -5
I got bills and canceled checks linking me to the Hobo Haus since 1973. That's good enough for me, but I'm pretty suspicious of that JDD guy. Mike |
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 26, 2019 20:33:06 GMT -5
My wife Kim was adopted from Korea, and she's having trouble getting her driver's license renewed with that whole real id marked card thing, which will be a requirement here in a couple years. She doesn't have a birth certificate, and she's running in circles trying to get that done.
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Post by fauxmaha on Jan 26, 2019 20:38:24 GMT -5
I've got an official birth certificate issued by the County Clerk of Vanderburgh County, Indiana.
So, no.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 26, 2019 20:46:55 GMT -5
Just scan the bar code on the back of your head. Right under the hairline. You know, the one that reads 666.
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Post by sidheguitarmichael on Jan 26, 2019 20:49:14 GMT -5
When you get right down to it, there have been a good number of people that couldn’t prove they owned their house, when banks tried to foreclose on paid-off loans that were bought and sold way too many times. A lot of this stuff is pretty hard to prove. Check this one out: www.wnycstudios.org/story/invisible-girl"In today’s episode, we meet a young woman from Texas, born and raised, who can’t prove that she exists.
Alecia Faith Pennington was born at home, homeschooled, and never visited a dentist or a hospital. By both chance and design she is completely invisible in the eyes of the state. We follow Faith as she struggles to free herself from one restrictive world only to find that she is trapped in another. In her journey to prove her American citizenship she attempts to answer the age-old question: who am I?"If y’all are not familiar with radiolab, it’s an excellent podcast series. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Jan 26, 2019 21:00:32 GMT -5
I am familiar with radio lab, and listen almost every Sunday. It is a good one. I do remember this one.
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 26, 2019 21:04:51 GMT -5
I just used my passport (which I've had for 18 years) to renew my new ultra secret clearance driver's license (which lets me on airplanes and into certain Federal facilities. Or so it said on the brochure.) My wife's a Fed with a secret clearance and I've been one also and gone through at least 2 FBI clearances in the last 15 years. And I've got a copy of my birth certificate and my Social Security card. And I signed up for the draft when I was 18 (as required). And I'm a white guy in rural Virginia who doesn't have trouble sporting a Trump hat or shirt.
Doubt I'll ever be questioned.
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Post by jdd2 on Jan 26, 2019 21:25:27 GMT -5
I just used my passport (which I've had for 18 years) to renew my new ultra secret clearance driver's license (which lets me on airplanes and into certain Federal facilities. Or so it said on the brochure.) My wife's a Fed with a secret clearance and I've been one also and gone through at least 2 FBI clearances in the last 15 years. And I've got a copy of my birth certificate and my Social Security card. And I signed up for the draft when I was 18 (as required). And I'm a white guy in rural Virginia who doesn't have trouble sporting a Trump hat or shirt. Doubt I'll ever be questioned. Don't take this personally, but there could be a Jacob's Ladder kind of story that could overlay that. |
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Post by Cornflake on Jan 26, 2019 21:28:55 GMT -5
Good question. Having been through many border patrol checkpoints in recent years, I know that the reality is that if you look like I do and sound like I do, you get waved through. I was talking recently with an Egyptian-American who tends to have a very different experience. He wasn't bitter about it. He shrugged it off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:30:19 GMT -5
I'd just show them my ID...
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Post by aquaduct on Jan 26, 2019 21:43:29 GMT -5
I just used my passport (which I've had for 18 years) to renew my new ultra secret clearance driver's license (which lets me on airplanes and into certain Federal facilities. Or so it said on the brochure.) My wife's a Fed with a secret clearance and I've been one also and gone through at least 2 FBI clearances in the last 15 years. And I've got a copy of my birth certificate and my Social Security card. And I signed up for the draft when I was 18 (as required). And I'm a white guy in rural Virginia who doesn't have trouble sporting a Trump hat or shirt. Doubt I'll ever be questioned. Don't take this personally, but there could be a Jacob's Ladder kind of story that could overlay that. Don't worry, my life's been a movie too. |
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Jan 26, 2019 23:55:13 GMT -5
By elimination. If you ask all the other countries if I am one of theirs, they will all adamantly say NO!
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Post by millring on Jan 27, 2019 6:20:00 GMT -5
Welcome to the post modern world.
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Post by drlj on Jan 27, 2019 8:40:34 GMT -5
I have an American flag tattooed on my backside. Who else but a true American citizen patriot would do something like that?
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Post by brucemacneill on Jan 27, 2019 8:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 8:52:49 GMT -5
Yes. My DD-214 says I was an officer. Non-citizens can enlist, but can't be warrant or commissioned officers.
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Post by PaulKay on Jan 27, 2019 9:40:29 GMT -5
Good question. Having been through many border patrol checkpoints in recent years, I know that the reality is that if you look like I do and sound like I do, you get waved through. I was talking recently with an Egyptian-American who tends to have a very different experience. He wasn't bitter about it. He shrugged it off. Me too. My comment at the time as they waived us through....not the right color I guess. |
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