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Post by billhammond on Mar 21, 2019 10:15:14 GMT -5
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) -- A scientific report says the Great Lakes region is warming faster than the rest of the U.S., which likely will bring more flooding and other extreme weather such as heat waves and drought.
The warming climate also could mean less overall snowfall even as lake-effect snowstorms get bigger, according to the report released Thursday by a team of researchers from universities primarily from the Midwest.
The report also predicts more severe algae blooms in the Great Lakes area, which make it unsafe for swimming and increase the costs of treating the water.
Farming could be hit especially hard, with heavy rains delaying spring planting and dry spells requiring more irrigation during summer.
Beaches, dunes and shorelines will be more vulnerable to erosion.
The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report.
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Post by brucemacneill on Mar 21, 2019 10:34:49 GMT -5
"The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report."
That's all you need to know.
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Post by coachdoc on Mar 21, 2019 10:36:27 GMT -5
"The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report." That's all you need to know. OK, Bruce. Check in in 2 years and let's talk about who was right and who was not. I'll be interested in how this starts playing out, or not. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Mar 21, 2019 10:39:22 GMT -5
"The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report." That's all you need to know. OK, Bruce. Check in in 2 years and let's talk about who was right and who was not. I'll be interested in how this starts playing out, or not. Thanks. I'll take that as a medical guaranty that I'll live another 2 years. |
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Post by coachdoc on Mar 21, 2019 10:44:12 GMT -5
OK, Bruce. Check in in 2 years and let's talk about who was right and who was not. I'll be interested in how this starts playing out, or not. Thanks. I'll take that as a medical guaranty that I'll live another 2 years. You got it, buddy. See ya then. |
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Post by Marshall on Mar 21, 2019 11:06:42 GMT -5
I thought somebody was proposing energy from algae a few years ago. This could be good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 19:00:11 GMT -5
OK, Bruce. Check in in 2 years and let's talk about who was right and who was not. I'll be interested in how this starts playing out, or not. Thanks. I'll take that as a medical guaranty that I'll live another 2 years.
Bruce, I have always had the sense that you will outlive many of us.  |
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Post by timfarney on Mar 22, 2019 12:52:19 GMT -5
"The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report." That's all you need to know. Ah.Then you know how I view your security expertise. |
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Post by t-bob on Mar 22, 2019 17:09:15 GMT -5
I read the article and it sounds interesting
The thread is a little oddity
One person was a little grumpy
I will live a lot more than two years
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Post by Marshall on Mar 22, 2019 17:18:09 GMT -5
I was NOT grumpy.  |
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Post by t-bob on Mar 22, 2019 17:45:45 GMT -5
I was NOT grumpy. It wasn’t you |
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Post by Chesapeake on Mar 22, 2019 18:39:50 GMT -5
Maybe this would help the Great Lakes situation.  |
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Mar 22, 2019 19:23:06 GMT -5
Maybe this would help the Great Lakes situation. Some say the the masses in US of A is deficient in scientific knowledge. Clearly, not that guy. He gave it a lot of thought. 😱 Mike |
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Post by jdd2 on Mar 22, 2019 19:26:35 GMT -5
Maybe this would help the Great Lakes situation. Probably on board for that coming trip to antarctica. You know, the one to the edge of the earth? |
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Post by Village Idiot on Mar 22, 2019 20:21:35 GMT -5
I thought somebody was proposing energy from algae a few years ago. This could be good. In a lot of areas in the great lakes the waters are so much clearer than they used to be. So nice for boaters, water skiers, swimmers and beach goers, and the blue hue of the lakes is a nice enhancement for one visiting the lake shore. People are enjoying the vista. Zebra mussels can be thanked for this. They take over large sections of the lakes, cover the bottom, and eat up all the algae drifting around that used to make the waters unclear. And this causes problems. The lack of algae causes a lack of oxygen in the water, which kills of the fish and flora, and the amount of sunlight that is now allowed to penetrate deeper into the lakes drives the things left into deeper waters seeking temperatures they are used to although they are not necessarily equipped to live in those depths. And zebra mussels, like any other animals, poop. Their excrement just piles up in the bottom of the lakes. Any fish forced to live at that depth swimming by or any current stirs that stuff up, which means that what seems clear to us observing from the surface is a really gross mess on the bottom. A funny thing about zebra mussels. They know what kind of algae to eat, and what kind to avoid. They love the good, natural stuff. They shun the algae caused from chemical run-offs, from people spraying their lawns and from farms and from just from the lakes being near big cities, and it is those kinds of algae that are causing the blooms in the Great Lakes and choking off even more aqua life. Energy from algae in the Great Lakes? Good idea on the surface, like the beauty of the surface of the lakes, but the problems with the algae there these days far outweighs any benefit. |
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Post by Chesapeake on Mar 22, 2019 21:45:35 GMT -5
I remember writing about these critters for the National Geographic news service in the early '90s, when they were gaining a foothold in the lakes. One way they spread from river to river is by hitchhiking on boats. Another problem they cause is clogging drainpipes and other underwater structures.
Being a fan of mussels dipped in drawn butter, my first reaction was, let the good times roll. Unfortunately, though, because they are so efficient at filtering water, they tend to build up a lot of toxins in the tasty parts.
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Post by millring on Mar 23, 2019 7:14:42 GMT -5
"The Chicago-based Environmental Law & Policy Center commissioned the report." That's all you need to know. OK, Bruce. Check in in 2 years and let's talk about who was right and who was not. I'll be interested in how this starts playing out, or not. That's the beauty of the climate change debate. Nobody is ever questioned about, or held to account for failed predictions. Read Gore's book today and count all the failed predictions. Yet, it still holds the same weight it did on the day of its release. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Mar 23, 2019 7:26:34 GMT -5
Gore's book is a henway.
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Post by dradtke on Mar 23, 2019 9:30:50 GMT -5
I was NOT grumpy. No, Marshall's not Grumpy, Marty's Grumpy. Marshall's Happy, I'm Sleepy, Bill's Sneezy, Todd's Bashful, and Doc is Doc. Epaul insisted on being Dopey, for some reason. |
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Post by dradtke on Mar 23, 2019 9:35:33 GMT -5
Nobody is ever questioned about, or held to account for failed predictions. Read Gore's book today and count all the failed predictions. The big problem about predictions is the when, not the what. I predict that you will die next week. If you're still alive after next week, am I wrong? Only about the second half. |
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