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Post by Dan McLaughlin on Apr 8, 2019 6:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 8, 2019 7:27:43 GMT -5
Nothing to see? I beg to differ. That's a mighty fine ellipsis.
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Post by Dub on Apr 8, 2019 7:35:42 GMT -5
Nothing to see? I beg to differ. That's a might fine ellipsis. You call that an ellipsis? That’s no ellipsis. It’s nothing but three periods. This is an ellipsis …
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 8, 2019 7:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by millring on Apr 8, 2019 8:18:01 GMT -5
Remember never to look straight into an ellipses without proper eye protection.
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Post by drlj on Apr 8, 2019 8:25:16 GMT -5
I am more puzzled by the initials after Mark’s fake name. JSG? I am going to put NCGP after mine. Non-certified guitar player. That way the Chet Atkins estate won’t sue me.
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Post by dradtke on Apr 8, 2019 8:41:32 GMT -5
Nothing to see? I beg to differ. That's a might fine ellipsis. You call that an ellipsis? That’s no ellipsis. It’s nothing but three periods. This is an ellipsis … It's starting with a space that does the trick.
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Post by Cornflake on Apr 8, 2019 8:58:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Dub, about those initials. Did you join some religious order?
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Post by Dub on Apr 8, 2019 10:51:27 GMT -5
Just Some Guy
It started in another thread.
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Post by drlj on Apr 8, 2019 11:05:29 GMT -5
Just Some Guy It started in another thread. It should be AAG. Above Average Guy.
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Post by Dub on Apr 8, 2019 11:09:41 GMT -5
Just Some Guy It started in another thread. It should be AAG. Above Average Guy. Alas, I am not from Minnesota.
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Post by Russell Letson on Apr 8, 2019 11:11:06 GMT -5
At least in the manuscript style I used to teach, ellipses are three spaced periods surrounded by spaces: . . . . (That last one is a full-stop period.) I remember this as one of the conventions that students found hardest to keep straight, even though it's a punctuation feature they need to use frequently in processing quotations for research papers. (I know that house styles and typographical practices vary, but that was MLA style back then and still, I think, now.)
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Post by Dub on Apr 8, 2019 11:18:05 GMT -5
At least in the manuscript style I used to teach, ellipses are three spaced periods surrounded by spaces: . . . . (That last one is a full-stop period.) I remember this as one of the conventions that students found hardest to keep straight, even though it's a punctuation feature they need to use frequently in processing quotations for research papers. (I know that house styles and typographical practices vary, but that was MLA style back then and still, I think, now.) Yes but in typography it’s a single character. It has an assigned single character code (U+2026). In Windows you can type an ellipsis using Alt+2026.
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Post by RickW on Apr 8, 2019 11:57:06 GMT -5
At least in the manuscript style I used to teach, ellipses are three spaced periods surrounded by spaces: . . . . (That last one is a full-stop period.) I remember this as one of the conventions that students found hardest to keep straight, even though it's a punctuation feature they need to use frequently in processing quotations for research papers. (I know that house styles and typographical practices vary, but that was MLA style back then and still, I think, now.) Yes but in typography it’s a single character. It has an assigned single character code (U+2026). In Windows you can type an ellipsis using Alt+2026. Nerd alert! I thought I was bad, and Bruce was bad, and a few others. But I bow down before the infinitude of your nerdicity. 🤣
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Post by Russell Letson on Apr 8, 2019 12:10:43 GMT -5
I should point out that the last time I taught manuscript format and MLA conventions was 1986, and the big challenge was getting the students to sharpen their quill pens before writing an essay.
Of course, in my student days, the issue was keeping one's clay tablets dry . . . .
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Post by brucemacneill on Apr 8, 2019 12:11:53 GMT -5
Yes but in typography it’s a single character. It has an assigned single character code (U+2026). In Windows you can type an ellipsis using Alt+2026. Nerd alert! I thought I was bad, and Bruce was bad, and a few others. But I bow down before the infinitude of your nerdicity. 🤣 Tried that but it didn't work so Google said it's Alt+0133 with the 0133 typed on the numeric keypad … That works 2026 gets you Ω
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Post by Dub on Apr 8, 2019 13:24:58 GMT -5
Nerd alert! I thought I was bad, and Bruce was bad, and a few others. But I bow down before the infinitude of your nerdicity. 🤣 Tried that but it didn't work so Google said it's Alt+0133 with the 0133 typed on the numeric keypad … That works 2026 gets you Ω Thank you, sir. The truth is that I don’t have access to a system running Windows. I got the (erroneous) key sequence from a quick Web search and didn’t look further. In iOS (iPad, iPhone) the ellipsis is part of the keyboard layout so no special key combinations are needed. … I first became interested in typography as a computer science student at the Illinois Institute of Technology back in the late 1960s. In one of our classes we used volume one of Donald Knuth’s masterwork The Art of Computer Programming. If you’ve read Knuth you know where I’m going with this. Kunth made up a symbolic machine language he called MIX to use in problems and examples. He was so nerdy that in in the index of the book is an entry for “MUG” the MIX User’s Group. The only page reference for the entry is the page number on which the index entry appears. Some readers here will understand how delighted mathematicians and programmers are with self-referential expressions and humorous ones get extra credit. When Knuth saw the early drafts of his first volume (there were to be seven) he was alarmed at the unsightly appearance of his mathematical formulas and equations. Seeking to rectify that, he began a study of typography culminating in a computer-based typesetting system he called TEX that completely revolutionized the typesetting industry. I think he took ten years out of his life to do this so his textbooks could look as he intended. Academic and engineering groups such as IEEE adopted TEX as a standard for academic papers. LATEX is a system of macros devised to make TEX easier to use and is in wide use throughout the world. It’s been implemented on just about every system imaginable including iOS. Over the years I’ve written many papers this way and still use it from time to time. Rather than WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) TEX is more WYGIWYW (what you get is what you want).
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