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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 14, 2019 16:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by RickW on Apr 14, 2019 18:39:01 GMT -5
Not sure where you meant that to go, but all I got was his whole page.
We visited the Amanas when we were at ij. Wonderful place, and very well preserved. Lots of new buildings as well. Joe would know more of course.
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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 14, 2019 19:24:34 GMT -5
Yes, I tried to target just his post about Amana, but the link goes to Steve's whole page. Wish I could find the article itself: it would be interesting to compare the colonies then with how they are now.
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 14, 2019 19:33:24 GMT -5
I saw a blurb on his Facebook page, but that was about it. Besides becoming more of a tourist destination, and of course far fewer people who remember when the Colony set aside its communal way of life, I wouldn't say it's changed that much in 45 years. The Amana society still exists, and manages some 25,000 acres of farmland, and it's woods are managed by them as opposed to Iowa County Conservation, which means they are not public lands. There is a church in Homestead, where Joe lives, that still holds services in German, although I doubt someone from Germany would understand much of the dialect. I wonder how many members still attend those services, as the commune ended in 1932.
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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 14, 2019 20:21:00 GMT -5
I'd never heard of it until the discussion here a while ago. Another case of East Coast isolation, I guess. It's on my bucket list now though.
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 14, 2019 20:41:06 GMT -5
You could squeeze in Idiotjam on that trip.
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Post by jdd2 on Apr 14, 2019 20:46:34 GMT -5
...that still holds services in German, although I doubt someone from Germany would understand much of the dialect. ... Modern germans may not understand, or may understand but think of what they hear as somehow "quaint", but sometimes a small community, thru its isolation, can preserve an older variety of a language, while its community of origin will have moved on with the flow of history and change. Eg, there are some tidewater communities (chesapeake bay) that have seem to have preserved 1600s-era english (from SW england). The Amano colony variety of german may represent a historical german dialect with some accuracy, a dialect that back in germany went on to evolve, perhaps merge with something else, or maybe disappear. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 14, 2019 22:49:47 GMT -5
That is exactly right. Same with the old order Amish in Iowa.
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Post by Dub on Apr 15, 2019 12:20:57 GMT -5
In Amana they also use made-up words that I believe are unique to the villages. For example, they make a (truly horrible) rhubarb wine that they call piestengel. Stengel is the German word for stem while pie refers to the custom of referring to rhubarb as pie plant.
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Post by Chesapeake on Apr 15, 2019 13:22:28 GMT -5
In Amana they also use made-up words that I believe are unique to the villages. For example, they make a (truly horrible) rhubarb wine that they call piestengel. Stengel is the German word for stem while pie refers to the custom of referring to rhubarb as pie plant. Sounds irresistible. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Apr 15, 2019 14:47:51 GMT -5
Unless you like super sweet wine, you won’t like any Amanda wines. Very, very sweet stuff.
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Post by Dub on Apr 15, 2019 15:15:42 GMT -5
Unless you like super sweet wine, you won’t like any Amanda wines. Very, very sweet stuff. Piestengel is more like drinking turpentine. |
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Post by RickW on Apr 15, 2019 15:22:10 GMT -5
Unless you like super sweet wine, you won’t like any Amanda wines. Very, very sweet stuff. Piestengel is more like drinking turpentine. That's how I think retsina tastes. Ick. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 15:54:40 GMT -5
,Being 25/100 Greek, I have had my share of Retsina, Mavrodaphne, Metaxa, Ouzo, Dolmas, Spanakopita, Taramasalata, Tzatziki,Marithes , Baklava, Kouloura, Kourabiedes, and enough lamb to sink a battleship.
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Post by Cosmic Wonder on Apr 15, 2019 18:54:01 GMT -5
I've never heard of this. I'm guessing they don't surf?
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