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Post by RickW on Dec 21, 2019 11:44:53 GMT -5
I even buy LED Christmas lights. Can’t buy anything but here. And I have to say, that’s one area they are way, way better. Much sturdier. When you drop them, they don’t explode into a million tiny pieces on the driveway.
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Post by Rob Hanesworth on Dec 21, 2019 12:14:11 GMT -5
I have LEDs on a dimmer switch over our dining room table and the setup has worked great for three years.
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Post by millring on Dec 21, 2019 12:31:37 GMT -5
I tried to buy LEAD lights but they were way too heavy.
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Post by drlj on Dec 21, 2019 12:53:46 GMT -5
I tried to buy LEAD lights but they were way too heavy. Well, at least you waited for page two to STEAL my joke from page one!!
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Post by millring on Dec 21, 2019 12:58:12 GMT -5
heh. I opened the thread to page 2. That'll teach me. Or you. whichever.
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Post by drlj on Dec 21, 2019 13:03:45 GMT -5
My lawyers say if I accept 2 coffee cups, a bowl, and a pie plate as payment for damages the whole thing can be forgotten.
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Post by epaul on Dec 21, 2019 13:07:24 GMT -5
I like LEDs just fine.
The incomplete research and reasoning used to buttress the near-forcing of their adoption has always bugged me some; the claimed energy savings are exaggerated. Simply put, the heat given off by incandescents can't universally be categorized as wasted energy, which the studies selected to justify the near-banning of them have done.
We heat our house seven months a year. Much of the country has to provide some heat six months a year. In those months, the heat from incandescents isn't waste energy, as the "studies" claim it to be. It simply isn't. It is part, even if small, of the necessary heating equation.
A quick thought might say, "ah, but in the summer, if you cool your house with AC, then that cancels out the whatever it is you just said".
No, it doesn't. Discounting that many houses don't have AC, there is the matter of the respective hours each day a house needs light depending on the season. During the winter months, my house may have lights on up to eight hours day, eight hours that require a heated house, eight hours during which the heat given off by incandescents can't be deemed wasted energy. During the summer months, a time when the heat from a incandescent would be a disadvantage, I might have lights on in the house only an hour or two at most.
[Explanation, we're in the northern hemisphere and the planet's axis is tilted. During peak winter, the northern U.S. only has 6-8 hours of useable daylight (house lights are on a lot and any heat they may produce isn't wasted energy). During peak summer, the northern U.S. will have 12-14 hrs useable daylight (house lights are on very little and contribute very, very, very little un-useful heat).
A quibble? Perhaps, but when research and statistics are used to buttress regulation, it should be thorough research and unbiased statistics. LED lights do save energy, but not nearly the amount claimed and used as justification for the near-banning of incandescents.
It appears very likely that LEDs will displace incandescents on merit and economy alone. There was, and is, no reason to legislate incandescents out of existence.
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Post by Dub on Dec 21, 2019 14:26:02 GMT -5
It appears very likely that LEDs will displace incandescents on merit and economy alone. There was, and is, no reason to legislate incandescents out of existence. I was going to make that very point. The ban may have boosted the LED industry and led to affordable LED lighting but at this point we could subsidize incandescent lighting and it would still be replaced by other options. John Henry may have beaten the early steam powered drill but I’ll bet there’s no one today driving star drills into rock walls with a hammer. Horse drawn buggies function today at least as well as they ever did and though we can buy them still, they’re not widely used for transportation.
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Post by Marshall on Dec 21, 2019 14:36:35 GMT -5
I even buy LED Christmas lights. Can’t buy anything but here. And I have to say, that’s one area they are way, way better. Much sturdier. When you drop them, they don’t explode into a million tiny pieces on the driveway. They still sell regular Christmas lights here. $2.99/100 string. The LEDs are $3.98/100 string. The LEDs will work next year. The old lights it's a crap shoot if they'll light up. The church has a pile of old lights. I do the outside stringing for them. Every year I have to buy a new string or two, becasue the old lights crap out. I'd buy LEDs but the color of the lights is different. You'd see the diff. I was just in Lowes today looking for a string of Random-Sparkle-LEDs for the outdoor patio table. The LEDs in the store are picked over. The old incandescent strings still have a hundred boxes or more on the shelves.
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Post by Dub on Dec 21, 2019 15:07:11 GMT -5
Can’t buy anything but here. And I have to say, that’s one area they are way, way better. Much sturdier. When you drop them, they don’t explode into a million tiny pieces on the driveway. They still sell regular Christmas lights here. $2.99/100 string. The LEDs are $3.98/100 string. The LEDs will work next year. The old lights it's a crap shoot if they'll light up. The church has a pile of old lights. I do the outside stringing for them. Every year I have to buy a new string or two, becasue the old lights crap out. I'd buy LEDs but the color of the lights is different. You'd see the diff. I was just in Lowes today looking for a string of Random-Sparkle-LEDs for the outdoor patio table. The LEDs in the store are picked over. The old incandescent strings still have a hundred boxes or more on the shelves. “Regular” Christmas lights are $23.00 for a string of 25. Those cute little “Italian” lights that everyone buys these days are the new-fangled replacements. www.amazon.com/Boutique-window-Christmas-Multicolored-Lights
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