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Post by majorminor on May 18, 2020 8:59:54 GMT -5
Tell me what you are using or what you like etc. A good pick up install in the Gibson has me wanting to have an amp around for both guitar and vocals. My neighbor has a Fishman Loudbox Pro he's going to loan me for a bit. I'm also considering the Fender 100, and maybe the Boss Acoustic Singer amp(gimmicky but I like the on board looper and vocal harmonizer). I'm probably shopping in the $500 to $800 range but am willing to listen. This is just for home and neighborhood jam use. I'm currently using a Bose S1 Pro for my general plug in and sing amp. Great at vocals and decent as a guitar amp but not what I would call great with several different guitars now, but I tend to like acoustic amps and their inherent coloration a little vs a PA type powered speaker with that flatter respsonse.
In an aside as I re dive in to acoustic guitar amplification after years away I'm struck by how little is changed. Other than the Tonedexter, it seems it's pretty much the same pickups going in to the same amps with all the same shortcomings as circa 2005
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Post by billhammond on May 18, 2020 9:19:21 GMT -5
I've got a wonderful 200-watt Ultrasound amp gathering dust that I'd be happy to get rid of -- to my old ears it's still the warmest sound I've ever run across. Has separate guitar and vocal channels and onboard effects.
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Post by epaul on May 18, 2020 9:24:59 GMT -5
I have a Bagamp I could maybe part with for $579.99 plus shipping. They are highly desirable. If you want to sound like Tony Bennet playing a pre-war D-18, Bagamp is your amp. I wouldn't be selling it but I lost both arms yesterday trying to get the lawnmower started (turns out, it was already started).
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Post by AlanC on May 18, 2020 9:26:22 GMT -5
Following I have an Ultrasound also don't have anything to plug into it right now.
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Post by majorminor on May 18, 2020 9:43:45 GMT -5
I've got a wonderful 200-watt Ultrasound amp gathering dust that I'd be happy to get rid of -- to my old ears it's still the warmest sound I've ever run across. Has separate guitar and vocal channels and onboard effects. Looks maybe too big and heavy for what I have in mind my friend
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Post by majorminor on May 18, 2020 9:44:43 GMT -5
I have a Bagamp I could maybe part with for $579.99 plus shipping. They are highly desirable. If you want to sound like Tony Bennet playing a pre-war D-18, Bagamp is your amp. I wouldn't be selling it but I lost both arms yesterday trying to get the lawnmower started (turns out, it was already started).
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Post by brucemacneill on May 18, 2020 9:45:42 GMT -5
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Post by billhammond on May 18, 2020 9:48:37 GMT -5
I've got a wonderful 200-watt Ultrasound amp gathering dust that I'd be happy to get rid of -- to my old ears it's still the warmest sound I've ever run across. Has separate guitar and vocal channels and onboard effects. Looks maybe too big and heavy for what I have in mind my friend My bad, I thought you were big and strong.
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Post by drlj on May 18, 2020 9:55:34 GMT -5
I have a Carvin 100D. I love it because it has FLANGE.
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Post by millring on May 18, 2020 9:58:08 GMT -5
"Acoustic Amp" sounds just like "Acoustic Camp".
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Post by Marshall on May 18, 2020 10:04:08 GMT -5
I have a Schertler David. It weighs 20 lb. Comes with a case and a shoulder strap. It'll sit on a speaker pole if you want to raise it up. Has 2 channels. One 1/4" channel. One combination XLR/1/4" input. Phantom poser for the mic channel. Very portable. Great clarity. No Looper. Only reverb for each channel. A bit pricey. Cost me $960 back 10 years ago or so at Starz Guitars in Cedar Rapids. I was seriously in danger of buying a Morris Guitar and an amp while in the showroom with other I-Jammers. The sound and playability was that good. But, I decided I had no acoustic guitar amp, so I swallowed hard, bought the amp and hustled out the door before any other temptation overwhelmed me.
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Post by Marshall on May 18, 2020 10:10:47 GMT -5
While surfing for another Schertler video I found this of Doug Young playing Schertler guitar through a little AER Alpha amp. That looks interesting.
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Post by Marty on May 18, 2020 10:15:19 GMT -5
Bill got his 200 watt Ultrasound Pro from the Podium, I thought he had a 50 watt extension amp too. Anyway, other than a bit large a very good sounding amp due to the amount of headroom, tons of headroom. The new Ultrasound amps by Dean Markly are made in China and not the same.
Roland makes a small, cheap, battery powered busking amp, The Mobile Cube Portable. They have several others, AC 60 and AC 33, all fairly compact and good sounding with lots of features and power.
Fishman makes good sounding amps but their warranty service is fer shit, beware.
Schertler amps are killer with lots of channels and tons of power. Expensive but top of the line.
Godin amps are copied from the Scherler's, they did a good job at a lot less cost.
A Tonedexter into a Bose system or Bag Amp would be fabulous.
I won't mention what I use in my shop because they don't make them anymore. In fact while sitting here writing I can't remember what it's called.
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Post by majorminor on May 18, 2020 10:25:00 GMT -5
A Tonedexter into a Bose system or Bag Amp would be fabulous. Maybe that's the way I should go. I love my little Bose S1 Pro 2 channel powered speaker as an all arounder. I use it as a bluetooth stereo, keyboard amp, acoustic amp, and mini PA. It's great at everything but for acoustic guitar I'd just rate it as good, or good enough, but not excellent. I've heard 4 guitars through it now and all were OK but nothing mind blowing. Maybe a well trained Tonedexter would push it up that last level.
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Post by Marty on May 18, 2020 10:28:46 GMT -5
A Tonedexter into a Bose system or Bag Amp would be fabulous. Maybe that's the way I should go. I love my little Bose S1 Pro 2 channel powered speaker as an all arounder. I use it as a bluetooth stereo, keyboard amp, acoustic amp, and mini PA. It's great at everything but for acoustic guitar I'd just rate it as good, or good enough, but not excellent. I've heard 4 guitars through it now and all were OK but nothing mind blowing. Maybe a well trained Tonedexter would push it up that last level. Do you have the bass bin for that system?
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Post by aquaduct on May 18, 2020 10:29:28 GMT -5
I've got an old Trace Eliot that's fine for those rare times I need it, but my wife has a Schertler Unico in a sweet natural wood finish that she loves. Given her level of talent and ear, I can't imagine a better recommendation but it's probably pricey.
For what that's worth.
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Post by majorminor on May 18, 2020 10:33:49 GMT -5
Maybe that's the way I should go. I love my little Bose S1 Pro 2 channel powered speaker as an all arounder. I use it as a bluetooth stereo, keyboard amp, acoustic amp, and mini PA. It's great at everything but for acoustic guitar I'd just rate it as good, or good enough, but not excellent. I've heard 4 guitars through it now and all were OK but nothing mind blowing. Maybe a well trained Tonedexter would push it up that last level. Do you have the bass bin for that system? No just the speaker. I see a line out 1/4" on the back. So I could line out to a sub then? The S1 Pro isn't a tower or a column just a little mini powered speaker
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Post by Shannon on May 18, 2020 10:46:09 GMT -5
I have a Roland AC-40 that I really like. It is small, light, has separate guitar and vocal channels, and really sounds good. Volume is surprising for the size. If I need to fill a bigger space, I use my Bose L1 Compact. For anything smaller, the little Roland does a nice job. It is about $400 new, and used ones are out there.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 10:47:53 GMT -5
For the last few years I've used a Fishman Loudbox Mini. It's remarkably loud for its size and sounds very natural. After hearing it, a couple of my guitar buddies went right out and bought them also. I was using an old 120 watt Behringer Ultracoustic which was okay . . . but it weighed something like 50 pounds. I mostly play in churches, and carrying a huge amp up several flights of stairs to a choir loft was getting old . . . like me. The Loudbox Mini is plenty loud enough for me and it definitely sounds more natural than the old Behringer did. (I'm playing folksy-rootsy acoustic stuff mainly, not praise band rock.) My only complaint about the Loudbox Mini is that the vinyl-like skin on the cabinet could be tougher against bumps and scrapes. Mine is an earlier unit. I think they may have switched to a tougher material since then.
I've tried maybe a dozen pickups over the years . . . magnetic . . . UST . . . SBT . . . etc. None of the pickups sounded natural to me. I really wanted to like the Baggs Lyric internal mic, but I could never get it to sound right. I had an Alvarez jumbo that had a built in UST with an add-on internal mic that sounded pretty good though.
For the last few years, I generally use a K&K Meridian Pro clamp-on guitar mic system instead of a pickup. If I keep the amp a few feet in front of me, feedback isn't an issue. It also sounds great plugged directly into the house PA, sometimes using the Loudbox Mini as a monitor.
My guitars are also equipped with K&K Pure Mini SBT pickups. I occasionally use the Pure Mini pickups run through a small K&K preamp into the Loudbox Mini. With a touch of reverb, it sounds okay . . . but not nearly as good as the Meridian microphone system.
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Post by Shannon on May 18, 2020 10:52:26 GMT -5
For the last few years I've used a Fishman Loudbox Mini. It's remarkably loud for its size and sounds very natural. After hearing it, a couple of my guitar buddies went right out and bought them also. I was using an old 120 watt Behringer Ultracoustic which was okay . . . but it weighed something like 50 pounds. I mostly play in churches, and carrying a huge amp up several flights of stairs to a choir loft was getting old . . . like me. The Loudbox Mini is plenty loud enough for me and it definitely sounds more natural than the old Behringer did. (I'm playing folksy-rootsy acoustic stuff mainly, not praise band rock.)
I've tried maybe a dozen pickups over the years . . . magnetic . . . UST . . . SBT . . . etc. None of the pickups sounded natural to me. I really wanted to like the Baggs Lyric internal mic, but I could never get it to sound right. I had an Alvarez jumbo that had a built in UST with an add-on internal mic that sounded pretty good though.
For the last few years, I generally use a K&K Meridian Pro clamp-on guitar mic system instead of a pickup. If I keep the amp a few feet in front of me, feedback isn't an issue. It also sounds great plugged directly into the house PA, sometimes using the Loudbox Mini as a monitor.
My guitars are also equipped with K&K Pure Mini SBT pickups. I occasionally use the Pure Mini pickups run through a small K&K preamp into the Loudbox Mini. With a touch of reverb, it sounds okay . . . but not nearly as good as the Meridian microphone system. If you ever find yourself with $399 to invest, check out the Tonedexter. It would make your K&K pickup sound great through any amp or PA. Marshall loves his, too! It would be handy for times the Meridian isn't practical (I have a Meridian, too, and I like it).
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