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Post by Marty on May 28, 2020 16:21:32 GMT -5
Protests have turned into riots in Minneapolis, Looting is rampant. Downtown St Paul has been shut down. I don't know if Marshall Law has been put in place yet.
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Post by jdd2 on May 28, 2020 16:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by brucemacneill on May 28, 2020 16:43:06 GMT -5
It's OK, they'll still vote Democrat.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 16:47:35 GMT -5
It's OK, they'll still vote Democrat. OMG, Bruce, give it a rest, will you. This is not about politics.
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Post by Shannon on May 28, 2020 16:48:54 GMT -5
This situation has been awful from the word "go."
All the folks of Minneapolis/St. Paul are in my prayers.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 16:49:25 GMT -5
Marshall Law would establish mandatory sunburst finishes on all guitars.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 16:54:34 GMT -5
This situation has been awful from the word "go." All the folks of Minneapolis/St. Paul are in my prayers. It could be a long, hot summer. And might I say I have never been prouder of my colleagues at the Star Tribune, both the reporters and photojournalists who have ventured out into these dangerous situations (amid a pandemic, no less) and the at-home editors and designers who have delivered day after day of exhaustingly extensive coverage. Go to startribune.com to look at what is NOT fake news, and if you really want to applaud their efforts, order an online subscription.
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Post by Marty on May 28, 2020 17:11:30 GMT -5
Bill there has been looting at the Maplewood Target near Sunray mall and at Sunray mall itself. Folks, that's a long way from Minneapolis. In other words, looting for the sake of looting and nothing to do with protests.
BTW I've seen the video of the cop restraining the man that died. That was manslaughter at the least, totally improper way to restrain someone.
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Post by Marshall on May 28, 2020 17:12:11 GMT -5
Marshall Law would establish mandatory sunburst finishes on all guitars. AMEN !Here's the badge that sits on the headstock of my Nick Lucas guitar.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 17:21:37 GMT -5
Bill there has been looting at the Maplewood Target near Sunray mall and at Sunray mall itself. Folks, that's a long way from Minneapolis. In other words, looting for the sake of looting and nothing to do with protests. Hell, as Renee mentioned, there has been violence erupting in L.A., and elsewhere nationwide -- it's rage, and while I don't condone the actions I certainly understand the impetus. BTW, there is some evidence that the first-night looting on Lake Street was started by white folks, not black, but that was unable to be confirmed, so we did not report it. I became aware of the info by reading an e-mail from a reader who claimed to be on the scene -- and who sent the e-mail to our corrections desk after seeing one of our online photos showing black people looting outside a burning auto parts store -- the reader was upset by the characterization. My own view is that our lens people are total pros, and they do their best to capture salient moments, not make one race or another look good or bad. Photo editors have a little more discretion, but we have published so many images online even now that I think that it's clear any charges of bias in our visual coverage of this huge story are clearly without merit.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 17:25:44 GMT -5
Legal note: In households, Marital Law supersedes Martial Law.
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Post by Village Idiot on May 28, 2020 17:25:45 GMT -5
It's a bad situation all around, and coupled with the tension people are feeling with everything else going on in our world and nation, it's just awful.
Something awful happened, and a man died. We can't bring him back, but there is still time for reasonable heads to at some point start leading things forward.
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 17:27:10 GMT -5
It's a bad situation all around, and coupled with the tension people are feeling with everything else going on in our world and nation, it's just awful. Something awful happened, and a man died. We can't bring him back, but there is still time for reasonable heads to at some point start leading things forward. Don't worry, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are flying in, and THAT will make everything hunky-dory.
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Post by TKennedy on May 28, 2020 18:56:55 GMT -5
I would not be at all surprised if it turns out that quite a bit of the arson and looting were instigated by folks coming in from out of state and very possibly white. What better chance for white nationalists to make people of color look bad.
Bill already alluded to that in an earlier post.
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Post by Marty on May 28, 2020 20:02:07 GMT -5
The National Guard has been called out but I've heard nothing about Marshal law yet.
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Post by aquaduct on May 28, 2020 20:40:32 GMT -5
I would not be at all surprised if it turns out that quite a bit of the arson and looting were instigated by folks coming in from out of state and very possibly white. What better chance for white nationalists to make people of color look bad. Bill already alluded to that in an earlier post. Yeah, right. We all hopped in the car Tuesday to drive to Minneapolis to make black people there look bad. After all, there aren't enough black people right here. Just kidding. That's got to be the stupidest thing I've read in at least a couple of days.
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Post by Russell Letson on May 28, 2020 21:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by Village Idiot on May 28, 2020 21:26:53 GMT -5
I would not be at all surprised if it turns out that quite a bit of the arson and looting were instigated by folks coming in from out of state and very possibly white. What better chance for white nationalists to make people of color look bad. Bill already alluded to that in an earlier post. Yeah, right. We all hopped in the car Tuesday to drive to Minneapolis to make black people there look bad. After all, there aren't enough black people right here. Just kidding. That's got to be the stupidest thing I've read in at least a couple of days. I would have to agree with that. I can't see any group of people organizing that many people that quickly to pull off something like this. There is anger, and there should be. Then there are people who take advantage of the situation and everything goes to pot. It's a very sad situation.
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Post by xyrn on May 28, 2020 22:02:07 GMT -5
Village IdiotCan this thread be merged into the George Floyd thread?
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Post by billhammond on May 28, 2020 22:06:45 GMT -5
I would not be at all surprised if it turns out that quite a bit of the arson and looting were instigated by folks coming in from out of state and very possibly white. What better chance for white nationalists to make people of color look bad. Bill already alluded to that in an earlier post. Yeah, right. We all hopped in the car Tuesday to drive to Minneapolis to make black people there look bad. After all, there aren't enough black people right here. Just kidding. That's got to be the stupidest thing I've read in at least a couple of days. I didn't suggest, Peter, that whities from elsewhere loaded into caravans and came here -- I reported that one reader contacted us and said that at one location, at least, the looting appeared to be started by white dudes. Some of our photos would tend to support that. We have lots of white dudes here, and it's certainly conceivable that a few of them might have seized upon the mayhem situation to do some opportunistic looting. Or maybe not. But once again, the tone of your statements (i.e., "That's got to be the stupidest thing I've read in at least a couple of days.") is terribly counterproductive to this forum having a civil discussion about these very relevant matters of the day.
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