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Post by robjh22 on Jul 6, 2020 22:17:28 GMT -5
Now there's a story, David. He did indeed have that reputation. I went to two of Charlie’s concerts here in Milwaukee. I paid to hear him play and be entertained. That’s was I got. Not one word of politics or his opinions on anything. Unlike other concerts I have been to where the performer believes I need to be told what to think and who to vote for. Good grief! My perspective is, “Just shut up and play.” “That’s what I am paying you for.” Charlie may have had some nutty ideas but he did not spew them to the audience that was PAYING to see him. He was a class act and gave a GREAT performance each time I saw him. The last time I saw Charlie was only 4-5 years ago. He was slowing down. He would sit out every 3rd or 4th song. It didn’t matter as his band was fabulous. They would have been worth paying for to hear on their own. I always thought it interesting how country artists did well up there in the frozen north. Being from the south, I used to think of the north as Philadelphia, Chicago and Detroit. Minneapolis was the north pole. Then I started learning more about places like northern Wisconsin and western Michigan, and saw that they were rural. Which is not to say Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard couldn't pack them in in Manhattan and Bangor. And Milwaukee ... i take it that it's not Madison? I'm not joking, I really have only a fuzzy grasp of the difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 0:11:07 GMT -5
I should add that the only time I saw Daniels live was in the '70s, at Indiana State in Terre Haute. He was on a bill with The Marshall Tucker Band and Elvin Bishop. Hell of a show.
Charlie's website had a page with his lyrics on it. When I last checked (years ago) he had scrubbed all the drug references from his earlier songs.
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Post by concertinagirl on Jul 7, 2020 5:40:37 GMT -5
I went to two of Charlie’s concerts here in Milwaukee. I paid to hear him play and be entertained. That’s was I got. Not one word of politics or his opinions on anything. Unlike other concerts I have been to where the performer believes I need to be told what to think and who to vote for. Good grief! My perspective is, “Just shut up and play.” “That’s what I am paying you for.” Charlie may have had some nutty ideas but he did not spew them to the audience that was PAYING to see him. He was a class act and gave a GREAT performance each time I saw him. The last time I saw Charlie was only 4-5 years ago. He was slowing down. He would sit out every 3rd or 4th song. It didn’t matter as his band was fabulous. They would have been worth paying for to hear on their own. I always thought it interesting how country artists did well up there in the frozen north. Being from the south, I used to think of the north as Philadelphia, Chicago and Detroit. Minneapolis was the north pole. Then I started learning more about places like northern Wisconsin and western Michigan, and saw that they were rural. Which is not to say Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard couldn't pack them in in Manhattan and Bangor. And Milwaukee ... i take it that it's not Madison? I'm not joking, I really have only a fuzzy grasp of the difference. Madison is our State Capitol. The University of Wisconsin-Madison (Wisconsin Badgers) is there and basically nothing else that interests me. LOL! I have lived here all of my life and have only been to Madison for grade school field trips and to participate in a peaceful rally or two a few years back. LOL! Milwaukee is much larger and on Lake Michigan. Milwaukee is known as the, "City Of Festivals." Each weekend there is a different festival at the "Summerfest" grounds on Lake Michigan. "Summerfest" is a 14 day festival and each night there is big name entertainment of all kinds. Country and Country Rock music have always been part of the mix. Charlie, Marshall Tucker etc. played Summerfest in the 70's. We also have a magnificent Performing Arts Center that includes entertainment of all varieties in addition to the Milwaukee Symphony and Florentine Opera. I saw Dolly Parton there. We have smaller venues, i.e., "Pabst Theatre" (was once part of the Pabst Brewery) and was renovated and turned into a theatre. I saw Dolly, The Osbourn Brothers, Merle Haggard and a few others there. We now have a Casino (Potowatomi) and they have a beautiful venue for music. That is where I saw Charlie for the last time. Willie Nelson has played at the Casino numerous times. On a local level, there was never a shortage of places to go on a Friday or Saturday night to hear Country music. Larry spent the last 10 years of his life playing in a Classic Country band. Texas 55 was basically the only band in the area that continued to play the old stuff like Haggard, Cash, Gibson etc. They always drew a large audience however bookings continued to fall off as years went on. Texas 55 drew an older crowd. Modern Country music as taken over and the young people love it and let's face it they are the ones who DRINK and SPEND MONEY in the bars. LOL! Churches in Milwaukee also have festivals to raise money for the church. Our local talent plays at them and Country music is always included in their lineup as well. A problem we have in Milwaukee (especially during the summer) is that there is too much to do and too little time. It's a WONDERFUL problem. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 7, 2020 5:49:23 GMT -5
I always thought it interesting how country artists did well up there in the frozen north. Being from the south, I used to think of the north as Philadelphia, Chicago and Detroit. Minneapolis was the north pole. Then I started learning more about places like northern Wisconsin and western Michigan, and saw that they were rural. Which is not to say Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard couldn't pack them in in Manhattan and Bangor. And Milwaukee ... i take it that it's not Madison? I'm not joking, I really have only a fuzzy grasp of the difference. Madison is our State Capitol. The University of Wisconsin-Madison (Wisconsin Badgers) is there and basically nothing else that interests me. LOL! I have lived here all of my life and have only been to Madison for grade school field trips and to participate in a peaceful protest or two a few years back. LOL! Milwaukee is much larger and on Lake Michigan. Milwaukee is known as the, "City Of Festivals." Each weekend there is a different festival at the "Summerfest" grounds on Lake Michigan. "Summerfest" is a 14 day festival and each night there is big name entertainment of all kinds. Country and Country Rock music have always been part of the mix. Charlie, Marshall Tucker etc. played Summerfest in the 70's. We also have a magnificent Performing Arts Center that includes entertainment of all varieties in addition to the Milwaukee Symphony and Florentine Opera. I saw Dolly Parton there. We have smaller venues, i.e., "Pabst Theatre" (was once part of the Pabst Brewery) and was renovated and turned into a theatre. I saw Dolly, The Osbourn Brothers, Merle Haggard and a few others there. We now have a Casino (Potowatomi) and they have a beautiful venue for music. That is where I saw Charlie for the last time. Willie Nelson has played at the Casino numerous times. On a local level, there was never a shortage of places to go on a Friday or Saturday night to hear Country music. Larry spent the last 10 years of his life playing in a Classic Country band. Texas 55 was basically the only band in the area that continued to play the old stuff like Haggard, Cash, Gibson etc. They always drew a large audience however bookings continued to fall off as years went on. Texas 55 drew an older crowd. Modern Country music as taken over and the young people love it and let's face it they are the ones who DRINK and SPEND MONEY in the bars. LOL! Churches in Milwaukee also have festivals to raise money for the church. Our local talent plays at them and Country music is always included in their lineup as well. A problem we have in Milwaukee (especially during the summer) is that there is too much to do and too little time. It's a WONDERFUL problem. Madison was one of the places a Meeeechigan kid learned to hate early on (along with Columbus, Lansing, State College, etc.) and Milwaukee is where motorcycle dreams live. |
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Post by concertinagirl on Jul 7, 2020 5:49:34 GMT -5
I should add that the only time I saw Daniels live was in the '70s, at Indiana State in Terre Haute. He was on a bill with The Marshall Tucker Band and Elvin Bishop. Hell of a show. Charlie's website had a page with his lyrics on it. When I last checked (years ago) he had scrubbed all the drug references from his earlier songs. I too remember seeing Charlie in the 1970's at a venue in Milwaukee called "Summerfest." It is a 14 day music festival often referred to as "The Big Gig." Charlie did change some through the years. The last time I saw him, the drug references were removed, he no longer played, "The South is Gonna Do It Again." He did, however, say "Son of a B---h" at the end of "The Devil Went Down to Georgia and not cop out and say "Son of a Gun." I can't explain it, but every time I hear it on the radio (XM) and I hear "Son of a Gun" (I understand they have to do that) that just somehow disappoints me. Something is lost. LOL! RIP Charlie. LOVED your music and had many many hours of enjoyment listening to it. |
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Post by concertinagirl on Jul 7, 2020 6:13:27 GMT -5
Madison is our State Capitol. The University of Wisconsin-Madison (Wisconsin Badgers) is there and basically nothing else that interests me. LOL! I have lived here all of my life and have only been to Madison for grade school field trips and to participate in a peaceful rally or two a few years back. LOL! Milwaukee is much larger and on Lake Michigan. Milwaukee is known as the, "City Of Festivals." Each weekend there is a different festival at the "Summerfest" grounds on Lake Michigan. "Summerfest" is a 14 day festival and each night there is big name entertainment of all kinds. Country and Country Rock music have always been part of the mix. Charlie, Marshall Tucker etc. played Summerfest in the 70's. We also have a magnificent Performing Arts Center that includes entertainment of all varieties in addition to the Milwaukee Symphony and Florentine Opera. I saw Dolly Parton there. We have smaller venues, i.e., "Pabst Theatre" (was once part of the Pabst Brewery) and was renovated and turned into a theatre. I saw Dolly, The Osbourn Brothers, Merle Haggard and a few others there. We now have a Casino (Potowatomi) and they have a beautiful venue for music. That is where I saw Charlie for the last time. Willie Nelson has played at the Casino numerous times. On a local level, there was never a shortage of places to go on a Friday or Saturday night to hear Country music. Larry spent the last 10 years of his life playing in a Classic Country band. Texas 55 was basically the only band in the area that continued to play the old stuff like Haggard, Cash, Gibson etc. They always drew a large audience however bookings continued to fall off as years went on. Texas 55 drew an older crowd. Modern Country music as taken over and the young people love it and let's face it they are the ones who DRINK and SPEND MONEY in the bars. LOL! Churches in Milwaukee also have festivals to raise money for the church. Our local talent plays at them and Country music is always included in their lineup as well. A problem we have in Milwaukee (especially during the summer) is that there is too much to do and too little time. It's a WONDERFUL problem. Madison was one of the places a Meeeechigan kid learned to hate early on (along with Columbus, Lansing, State College, etc.) and Milwaukee is where motorcycle dreams live. The Church festivals each weekend drew the motorcyclists. There would be HUNDREDS parked outside the tents. The money those guys put into their bikes was unbelievable. I used to enjoy going to those festivals to look at the bikes as much as to enjoy the music. I especially loved it after dark when many of those bikes would "light up." I have never had any interest in owning or even riding on a motorcycle. I simply enjoyed looking at them for their artistic value. Oh yes, Harley Davidson was the popular brand up here. Although I saw other brands rode up here, I only ever saw Harley parked outside of the festivals. |
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Post by aquaduct on Jul 7, 2020 6:53:30 GMT -5
Madison was one of the places a Meeeechigan kid learned to hate early on (along with Columbus, Lansing, State College, etc.) and Milwaukee is where motorcycle dreams live. The Church festivals each weekend drew the motorcyclists. There would be HUNDREDS parked outside the tents. The money those guys put into their bikes was unbelievable. I used to enjoy going to those festivals to look at the bikes as much as to enjoy the music. I especially loved it after dark when many of those bikes would "light up." I have never had any interest in owning or even riding on a motorcycle. I simply enjoyed looking at them for their artistic value. Oh yes, Harley Davidson was the popular brand up here. Although I saw other brands rode up here, I only ever saw Harley parked outside of the festivals. I've ridden bikes since I was about 12. Had an old Yamaha when I was dating my wife back in the Pleistocene but when kids came, the bike riding stopped. Then somewhere along 2005 or so I got a Triumph for commuting back and forth to work over her unease and quiet disapproval. Then somewhere along about 2008 she started to take an interest in riding with me (theory was I'd drive, she'd relax and write songs). She looked around and fell in love with the Harley Electra-glide and made me buy it (seriously- not that I objected. When your wife says buy a Hog, you buy a Hog). Would ride it all up and down the Valley out here and even took a 3 or 4 day swing through the back roads down to Beckley, WV - literally through the peak of God's country. Eventually the reality of life started taking our free time to ride away and my wife started to get increasingly nervous about my lack of "smoothness" brought on by sheer lack of practice in handling that beast. Then our bankruptcy made it a moot point as it was surrendered in the proceedings. Every now and again it comes up that we may want another- maybe one of their trikes- but generally the itch has been scratched and there are more pressing needs for $25-30,000 in our lives. But I've still got my jacket and probably always will. And other than my wife, Gibson guitars and Mesa amplifiers, nothing catches my eye quite like a Harley. |
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Post by Village Idiot on Jul 7, 2020 11:09:42 GMT -5
Our "everyone is retired except Todd" group was discussing Charlie Daniels on an email chain yesterday. One guy wrote:
In the early days he played on 3 Dylan albums and on a Leonard Cohan album. He was more liberal in his younger days but gradually became very far right. As a psychologist, I am fascinated with how people develop over a lifetime. Listen to uneasy rider. People are are complicated!
John
You may be too young to have heard the song uneasy rider by Charlie Daniels in his younger more liberal years. It is a song about a hippie having a bad tire that needs to be repaired in a redneck town. When this song came out I had hair to my shoulders and thought it was funny.
John
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Post by concertinagirl on Jul 7, 2020 11:41:44 GMT -5
Our "everyone is retired except Todd" group was discussing Charlie Daniels on an email chain yesterday. One guy wrote: In the early days he played on 3 Dylan albums and on a Leonard Cohan album. He was more liberal in his younger days but gradually became very far right. As a psychologist, I am fascinated with how people develop over a lifetime. Listen to uneasy rider. People are are complicated! John You may be too young to have heard the song uneasy rider by Charlie Daniels in his younger more liberal years. It is a song about a hippie having a bad tire that needs to be repaired in a redneck town. When this song came out I had hair to my shoulders and thought it was funny. John I remember having to listen to that song quite a few number of times to catch the entire story. LOL! I thought it very clever. |
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Post by howard lee on Jul 7, 2020 11:43:57 GMT -5
I never cared much for Charlie Daniels—music or persona. I hope he's at peace.
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Post by John B on Jul 7, 2020 11:57:27 GMT -5
The recording I posted earlier was a "revved up" version of Uneasy Rider.
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