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Post by david on Sept 28, 2020 12:26:21 GMT -5
Seems like this might be the easiest way to see where folks stand. Note that you can vote twice!!!
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 12:29:47 GMT -5
You forgot "The cowardly shits don't seem to have a f'ing clue about how taxes actually work".
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Post by millring on Sept 28, 2020 12:39:05 GMT -5
The unasked question I always wonder about it "When did the NYTimes get this information?"
Kinda like the Billy Bush tape. The press had that for the entire campaign process but rather than use it to attempt to sink him in the primary where it might have caused their Democratic candidate to face an opponent they actually DID fear having Clinton face (like Rubio or Kasich -- (I think they would have been weaker candidates, but the press sure didn't))...instead, they chose to hold onto it in hope that it would have more impact in October. Never mind that it failed because the press was too blind to see their own candidate's vulnerability in matters of sex scandal. I just wonder how long the NYTimes has been sitting on this, calculating when they thought it might do the most damage.
I'm guessing that since it really shows no wrongdoing, they went ahead and trotted it out now, knowing it would do no good. I wonder what they're holding back for the actual October Surprise.
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Post by epaul on Sept 28, 2020 12:40:42 GMT -5
Wow! Is there nothing about this turd that stinks to you two?
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 12:49:29 GMT -5
Wow! Is there nothing about this turd that stinks to you two? No. Nor should it. Unrelenting attacks from complete jackasses. And it's working. At getting Trump re-elected anyways. |
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Post by brucemacneill on Sept 28, 2020 12:49:42 GMT -5
Democrats aren't smart enough to understand money and taxes and income versus wealth. This story didn't matter back in 2016 but I guess they've run out of stories and we're in re-runs now.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 12:56:22 GMT -5
By the way, the IRS has never found any problems with his taxes in all these decades.
What makes you think the f'kwads at the New York Times know better than the IRS?
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Post by david on Sept 28, 2020 12:56:49 GMT -5
You forgot "The cowardly shits don't seem to have a f'ing clue about how taxes actually work". Sorry Peter - I truly tried to include one or two lines that I thought would appeal to you. If I could edit the poll I would add your choice. |
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 12:59:07 GMT -5
You forgot "The cowardly shits don't seem to have a f'ing clue about how taxes actually work". Sorry Peter - I truly tried to include one or two lines that I thought would appeal to you. If I could edit the poll I would add your choice. No you didn't. |
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Post by david on Sept 28, 2020 13:04:03 GMT -5
I thought you would choose that it is fake news and/or that it does not matter because he is doing a good job as president. In fact, I let people vote twice because I thought you would want to select both of those.
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Post by james on Sept 28, 2020 13:04:52 GMT -5
More on the money laundering and shell companies coming at some point presumably. In the meantime, $70,000 for that hairdo of his seems a bit steep!
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 28, 2020 13:08:02 GMT -5
Wow! Is there nothing about this turd that stinks to you two? Not being one of the two, I'll just say this: There has been a long series of stories along these lines. Things appear to stink to high heaven on day one. By day seven, the holes in the story become clear. By day 14, it is frequently clear that the whole thing is smoke. So I'll stick with my practice of keeping the news on a 30 day delay. All that said, I've long suspected that Trump has always had a very high leverage way of doing business. I know a few guys like that personally. It's not for me, but they seem to make it work...until it doesn't. Everything is always "debt up to your eyeballs" with leverage and the resulting crazy swings of fortune that entails. Debt comes due, gets refinanced with new debt, and the wheel turns. Eventually, things go sideways (as they always must), debt is not longer able to get refinanced, they Chapter 7 their way through it, and they start over. Like I said, that's not for me. I haven't operated with any borrowed money for almost 20 years. Hate debt. Won't have it. But there isn't anything illegal or even unethical about operating that way. It's common in the real estate world. Banks love lending to real estate projects. Allows them to push the leverage way beyond what would ordinarily be considered acceptable, since if/when the house of cards comes down, there is always real property to backstop losses. Anyway, just speaking in generalities because I'm not interested enough in wading through the minutia, but I'm guessing that the above few paragraphs are a reasonable description of Trump's business dealings. And if so, and if this new story (which sounds an awful lot like a rehash of a story that was out in 2017) essentially paints that picture, I'm not sure why it matters. We've known since before the 2016 election that Trump's business dealings were pretty far out over the ledge. And we've know that he likes to paint a picture of himself as some ultra-successful guy. And in a manner of speaking, he is. But in another manner of speaking, his only success is in his ability to manage high debt levels over time. Come to think of it, isn't that the definition of the optimum US president? |
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Post by millring on Sept 28, 2020 13:09:08 GMT -5
Wow! Is there nothing about this turd that stinks to you two? I've never like him, why do you ask? |
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Post by brucemacneill on Sept 28, 2020 13:13:13 GMT -5
Wow! Is there nothing about this turd that stinks to you two? Not being one of the two, I'll just say this: There has been a long series of stories along these lines. Things appear to stink to high heaven on day one. By day seven, the holes in the story become clear. By day 14, it is frequently clear that the whole thing is smoke. So I'll stick with my practice of keeping the news on a 30 day delay. All that said, I've long suspected that Trump has always had a very high leverage way of doing business. I know a few guys like that personally. It's not for me, but they seem to make it work...until it doesn't. Everything is always "debt up to your eyeballs" with leverage and the resulting crazy swings of fortune that entails. Debt comes due, gets refinanced with new debt, and the wheel turns. Eventually, things go sideways (as they always must), debt is not longer able to get refinanced, they Chapter 7 their way through it, and they start over. Like I said, that's not for me. I haven't operated with any borrowed money for almost 20 years. Hate debt. Won't have it. But there isn't anything illegal or even unethical about operating that way. It's common in the real estate world. Banks love lending to real estate projects. Allows them to push the leverage way beyond what would ordinarily be considered acceptable, since if/when the house of cards comes down, there is always real property to backstop losses. Anyway, just speaking in generalities because I'm not interested enough in wading through the minutia, but I'm guessing that the above few paragraphs are a reasonable description of Trump's business dealings. And if so, and if this new story (which sounds an awful lot like a rehash of a story that was out in 2017) essentially paints that picture, I'm not sure why it matters. We've known since before the 2016 election that Trump's business dealings were pretty far out over the ledge. And we've know that he likes to paint a picture of himself as some ultra-successful guy. And in a manner of speaking, he is. But in another manner of speaking, his only success is in his ability to manage high debt levels over time. Come to think of it, isn't that the definition of the optimum US president? Well, the Dems have the country operating on leverage so far you'd think someone would have explained it to them that it generally ends badly eventually. Still, if they made it illegal, they'd all be in jail. |
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 13:20:58 GMT -5
I thought you would choose that it is fake news and/or that it does not matter because he is doing a good job as president. In fact, I let people vote twice because I thought you would want to select both of those. Sure. Then I'm one of those dumb rubes that this place is always making fun of. But you forgot the answer that matters. This whole thing is a vicious pack of fucking lies. |
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Post by fauxmaha on Sept 28, 2020 13:25:35 GMT -5
Not being one of the two, I'll just say this: There has been a long series of stories along these lines. Things appear to stink to high heaven on day one. By day seven, the holes in the story become clear. By day 14, it is frequently clear that the whole thing is smoke. So I'll stick with my practice of keeping the news on a 30 day delay. All that said, I've long suspected that Trump has always had a very high leverage way of doing business. I know a few guys like that personally. It's not for me, but they seem to make it work...until it doesn't. Everything is always "debt up to your eyeballs" with leverage and the resulting crazy swings of fortune that entails. Debt comes due, gets refinanced with new debt, and the wheel turns. Eventually, things go sideways (as they always must), debt is not longer able to get refinanced, they Chapter 7 their way through it, and they start over. Like I said, that's not for me. I haven't operated with any borrowed money for almost 20 years. Hate debt. Won't have it. But there isn't anything illegal or even unethical about operating that way. It's common in the real estate world. Banks love lending to real estate projects. Allows them to push the leverage way beyond what would ordinarily be considered acceptable, since if/when the house of cards comes down, there is always real property to backstop losses. Anyway, just speaking in generalities because I'm not interested enough in wading through the minutia, but I'm guessing that the above few paragraphs are a reasonable description of Trump's business dealings. And if so, and if this new story (which sounds an awful lot like a rehash of a story that was out in 2017) essentially paints that picture, I'm not sure why it matters. We've known since before the 2016 election that Trump's business dealings were pretty far out over the ledge. And we've know that he likes to paint a picture of himself as some ultra-successful guy. And in a manner of speaking, he is. But in another manner of speaking, his only success is in his ability to manage high debt levels over time. Come to think of it, isn't that the definition of the optimum US president? Well, the Dems have the country operating on leverage so far you'd think someone would have explained it to them that it generally ends badly eventually. Still, if they made it illegal, they'd all be in jail. I think you're fooling yourself if you think one party is to blame. |
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Post by TKennedy on Sept 28, 2020 13:29:09 GMT -5
I think the cool/classy thing and probably the right thing for Biden to do tomorrow night is to totally ignore the Times article. Not even mention it.
Bet that does not happen though.
He’ll have him wasting time preparing for the hammer to fall and be waiting for it all night only to be left perplexed as to why it didn’t happen.
There was nothing in the story that was a surprise to me.
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Post by epaul on Sept 28, 2020 13:31:35 GMT -5
Sure. Then I'm one of those dumb rubes that this place is always making fun of. What? You're damn near running the place. Give up the martyr act. [maytyr to martyr courtesy Aqua] |
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Post by t-bob on Sept 28, 2020 13:32:03 GMT -5
I’m not sure why I even saw that thread. It’s OK I just skimmed it anyway. I took all the grease in the garbage.
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Post by aquaduct on Sept 28, 2020 13:39:44 GMT -5
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