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Post by Marshall on Oct 30, 2020 21:52:10 GMT -5
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 31, 2020 8:39:59 GMT -5
The bad news for the Bidens is that none of this depends on Carlson's credibility.
As near as I've been able to piece it together, the Bidens got lured with promises of vast sums of money into doing a deal with a Chinese intelligence front company. US intelligence started investigating, the CCP realized they'd been caught, and shut the down the front company, bringing the bribery to a close.
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Post by jdd2 on Oct 31, 2020 8:58:03 GMT -5
Without the supposed papers, it's ALL about carlson's credibility. He mentioned, he said, he emphasized, etc. It's all about him.
"Last night he mentioned the mystery of Biden documents overnights via UPS. He emphasized 1. Not interested in Hunter Biden except when it relates to Joe. Private citizen, leave him alone. 2. He has quite a few documents, will only make public what can be confirmed and is newsworthy. "
Even fox lawyers in a recent lawsuit were arguing that nobody (viewers) believed him or took him seriously. (And they won the case, the judge agreed.)
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Post by james on Oct 31, 2020 9:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by theevan on Oct 31, 2020 10:18:59 GMT -5
So Liz Dye thinks the FBI are investigating a made up case? Really?
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 31, 2020 10:59:57 GMT -5
So Liz Dye thinks the FBI are investigating a made up case? Really? Wouldn't be the first time. Hillary probably planted the Biden information too, assuming that if he had to drop out the Democrats would run her instead.
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Post by james on Oct 31, 2020 12:29:06 GMT -5
Something that Liz Dye or any other journalist would and do readily accept is that it is the FBI's job to continue their long extant investigations into international money-laundering etc., no matter how bogus newly emerging claims appear to be
They would probably be, (and presumably are already), more usefully occupied investigating Trump and Co's fishy foreign financial entanglements. That has yielded convictions and will , I dare say, continue to do so. I presume they have the Mazars documents by now?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 13:46:30 GMT -5
I'll call the FBI and tell them Bruce is laundering Colombian dope money, and there's some Russian money involved, too. It is their job to investigate, so I can say, "The FBI is investigating Bruce." The FBI's standard refusal to publicly confirm or deny the existence of an investigation works in my favor. Sure, Bruce can say, "I haven't laundered any Colombian dope money," but every suspect says that, right?
You folks have obviously never dealt with the FBI. I have. (Professionally, not personally.) They investigate nothingburgers all the time. They investigate leads that go nowhere because, well, there's nothing to the allegations.
One day in the not-too-distant-future, I hope Bruce and his similarly deluded friends will realize Clinton did nothing illegal and Biden did nothing illegal. Trump's DOJ has had four years to investigate them and they have come up with zilch. Zero. Nada. Nothing. There are two things to keep in mind here.
The first is most of you haven't a clue about the resources available to federal law enforcement, particularly in the digital age. It is awe-inspiring. If the Feds decide to investigate you, there isn't much about you that will remain secret.
The second issue is that the hyper-partisan Bill Barr has been at the helm of the DOJ for quite awhile now, and he would charge Clinton and Biden with jaywalking if he found a surveillance video showing them crossing in the middle of the street. The lack of prosecution isn't because of some mythical "Deep State" or some other stupid conspiracy that even a fourth-grader wouldn't buy. It is because Clinton and Biden did nothing illegal.
Bruce and his similarly deluded friends want to have it both ways. They want to think Clinton/Biden are dumb enough to break the law, but so smart they did it without leaving any evidence. And they want to believe the yahoos in Guiliani's clown car were lucky enough (or smart enough) to come up with these magic documents, but unlucky enough (or dumb enough) to send them in a way they'd get lost. Money is no object to the Trump campaign, particularly when it comes to funding an "October surprise." If the documents are THAT important, you hand-carry them to their destination.
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 31, 2020 14:05:21 GMT -5
Hanners, every time I start to think you're not stupid you prove me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 14:57:38 GMT -5
Hanners, every time I start to think you're not stupid you prove me wrong. Bruce, buddy, I don't know what your issue is. Maybe something bad happened to you along the way and there is some unresolved anger issue. Maybe it's a health issue. Maybe you just never felt you got your due in life or on the job or music or wherever. I got no idea. I've participated in various discussion boards (hobbies, work, music, etc.) over the years and I've encountered lots of folks from all walks of life. I've even become good virtual friends with some, even though I disagree with their politics. We manage to get along just fine. But in that virtual world I have never encountered anyone as unpleasant or consistently negative as you. Admittedly, I have not read every post you've written here, but I can't recall reading one that expressed joy, unless it was at someone else's pain or misfortune. Maybe you take in stray dogs and help old ladies across the street. Maybe you donate heavily to charity. Maybe you counsel wayward youth. I don't know. But here, you're pegging the Negativity Meter off-scale high, as they say in Mission Control. I will never read one of your posts again. Life is just too damn short.
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Post by theevan on Oct 31, 2020 15:07:35 GMT -5
David, there is far more to it than the scenario you pose. And you know it.
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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 31, 2020 15:24:17 GMT -5
No, Evan, he doesn't know it. He refuses to know it.
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Post by billhammond on Oct 31, 2020 15:36:03 GMT -5
PEOPLE! STOP THIS!
Talk about the issues, voice your opinions, but stop attacking each other by name, for god's sake! Place is getting really ugly lately, in a year where we could all really use its positive aspects, come on.
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Post by billhammond on Oct 31, 2020 15:54:31 GMT -5
On a lighter note, were you aware that Sean Connery died?
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Post by epaul on Oct 31, 2020 16:01:29 GMT -5
What?
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Post by epaul on Oct 31, 2020 16:14:02 GMT -5
I've exchanged shots with Bruce. I will in all honesty say I don't mean mine personally nor do I, in return, take his personally. I view them as a bar argument with a buddy. I, again honestly, like and enjoy Bruce and, provided he were supplying, would love to work through a bottle of Scotch with him.
But, yes, I agree these exchanges degrade the forum atmosphere. It's tough to pass up sometimes, but I'll try.
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Post by Marshall on Oct 31, 2020 17:10:21 GMT -5
On a lighter note, were you aware that Sean Connery died? Tucker Carlson told me Hunter Biden was involved. Probably a cover up
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Post by billhammond on Oct 31, 2020 17:13:07 GMT -5
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Post by jdd2 on Oct 31, 2020 17:16:32 GMT -5
Isn't it hunter's moon out there tonight?
And is that really comic sans...!?!!??!
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Post by TKennedy on Oct 31, 2020 19:26:30 GMT -5
There is an easy solution to dealing with folks you don’t like online. Ignore them. Don’t fall for their bait. It’s not like you have to work with them.
What was the quote? “Holding onto anger is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die” (Or something like that.) Sometimes easier said then done.
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