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Post by brucemacneill on Oct 27, 2020 12:21:59 GMT -5
From what I understand you can. Show up at the polls on election day and you can choose whether you want the early vote thrown out so you can do it again. The article in the NY Post said you can't do it in Virginia.
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Post by epaul on Oct 27, 2020 12:43:00 GMT -5
The "Left" I encounter doesn't have any idea what whatever it was Jeff was talking is about. Alien gooblygook. Of course it is. That's by design. And it's coming for you, whether you know about it or not. A good primer from Heather Heying, a personal heroine of mine. The inflated towers of sex-left and sex-right will continue to polemic away in their respective towers, but on the ground, the only noticeable effect 50 years from now will be that English finally has a useful gender-free pronoun and people like Bruce will be able to live openly as they were born without thought, concern, or repercussion.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 12:53:26 GMT -5
The inflated towers of sex-left and sex-right will continue to polemic away in their respective towers, but on the ground, the only noticeable effect 50 years from now will be that English finally has a useful gender-free pronoun and people like Bruce will be able to live openly as they were born without thought, concern, or repercussion. The trans-wars are the least of it. Yes, the LGBTQanon crowd has lost it's mind, but that's only a small sliver of what's happening here. If you like a culture filled with mandatory loyalty oaths, mandatory re-education training, and open racial discrimination, then by all means, continue to ignore this.
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Post by epaul on Oct 27, 2020 12:54:26 GMT -5
It does appear Evergreen University, a place Todd has never heard of or imagined, is a cult for fruitcakes. Cults for fruitcakes have always existed and have been with the human race forever. Evidence of cults and fruitcakes is just that, evidence of cults and fruitcakes. But what do such cults and fruitcakes amount to? Eh, no more than 30 or 40 percent of the population. That's nothing to worry about.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 27, 2020 12:54:42 GMT -5
The "Left" I encounter doesn't have any idea what whatever it was Jeff was talking is about. Alien gooblygook. Of course it is. That's by design. And it's coming for you, whether you know about it or not.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 13:09:24 GMT -5
Of course it is. That's by design. And it's coming for you, whether you know about it or not. Yeah, just the paranoid rantings of a lunatic.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 27, 2020 13:19:51 GMT -5
I thought we weren't supposed to live in fear, hide under the bed, give in to scary stories promulgated by The Media. Silly me.
But if you want to play duelling anxieties--I grew up with McCarthyism, duck & cover, MAD, the Domino Theory, and general Catholic guilt-mongering. My hide's pretty thick--though I do wake up at 4:00 a.m. with uneasy thoughts of what Trump and his posse could get up to with an entire lame-duck administration to work in and a supine Supreme Court.
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Post by Russell Letson on Oct 27, 2020 13:55:43 GMT -5
Yes, the LGBTQanon crowd has lost it's mind, but that's only a small sliver of what's happening here. Wow, how did I miss that conflation. There's something recursive going on there. And I don't mean out in the phenomemal world.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 14:09:07 GMT -5
Trump and his posse could get up to . What I'm talking about isn't speculative. It isn't "could". It's happening right now. Do you like speech codes? Do you like racial discrimination? Both are being imposed, in America, today, under the color of law.
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Post by james on Oct 27, 2020 14:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 14:53:21 GMT -5
"KCLS has recently been accused of holding a “racially segregated training program.” KCLS denies these allegations. " The signs on their windows say otherwise. Of course, if this sort of thing is ok with you, go for it. You can always find a ginsplainer to tell you that it isn't what it obviously is. The real issue, of course, is we all get to make a decision: You either see people by their race. Or you don't. It really is that simple. Martin Luther King explained the whole thing. You can adopt the Kendi model that says we need active, racial discrimination as an affirmative good for society, or you can adopt the King model that says discriminating by race is always morally unacceptable. I've made my choice. This neo-racism has significant backing, particularly within prominent cultural institutions. So much so that they got Prop 16 on the ballot in California. That proposition would repeal Prop 209 (ratified by voters in 1996) which states "the government and public institutions cannot discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in public employment, public education, and public contracting". Remarkable. I'm sure David Duke is pleased. Now, my opinion is enough for me, and I reserve the right to defend it against any consensus or majority anywhere, but I do take some cheer in the fact that Prop 16 is currently looking like it is going to fail badly. This, despite the fact that proponents of 16 have dramatically outspent opponents (all the big money, institutional support is behind it). It looks like they are on their way to failure in their efforts to re-establish dejure racism. Good. But I'm not naïve enough to think that the neo-racists in California and elsewhere are just going to give up. They will be back, with ever more inventive ways of re-injecting racism into society. Defending core principles such as equality before the law is a perpetual effort.
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Post by james on Oct 27, 2020 15:29:32 GMT -5
In the context of the DEI training sessions, separation is not segregation.
As someone who has come to the personal conclusion that it is better for my emotional well-being not to attend every argument to which I'm invited, particularly where aggressive dominance rather than dialectics looks likely to become a significant factor, I'll step away now.
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 15:42:36 GMT -5
separation is not segregation. Yeah, go with that. It's nonsense, but it's the best argument you've got. But don't kid yourself. You know and I know that you would not accept that rationalization in any other context.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 27, 2020 15:54:04 GMT -5
From what I understand you can. Show up at the polls on election day and you can choose whether you want the early vote thrown out so you can do it again. The article in the NY Post said you can't do it in Virginia. So I guess I'll just go to the polls like normal.
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Post by james on Oct 27, 2020 15:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by epaul on Oct 27, 2020 19:42:32 GMT -5
... but I do take some cheer in the fact that Prop 16 is currently looking like it is going to fail badly... Defending core principles such as equality before the law is a perpetual effort. Yes, defending core principles like equality before the law is a perpetual effort, and yes, you should take cheer that Prop 16 is failing badly. And it is failing badly because good, solid liberals and good solid conservatives together are acting sensibly. Silliness like what that KFC outfit was doing with its doors and complete and utter nuttiness like that screwball Evergreen College Coven exemplifies is not liberalism, is not the Left. It is just confused silliness that will pass (KFC) and the inanity that, while with us always, typifies only itself and itself only. You want to understand where liberalism is, what the Left is? Don't look at the nuts, because they're nuts. Just ask yourself, "What would Todd do." And by asking yourself "what would Todd do", I don't mean shaking your tailfeathers at a rowdy table of inebriated women at the VFW, I mean ..., uh, I ... well, ok, maybe Todd wasn't the best example. Think of Dub. What would Dub do?
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Post by fauxmaha on Oct 27, 2020 20:16:11 GMT -5
Sorry, but that dog won't hunt.
There are people in Congress right now fully invested in this neo-racism. It's not some fringe nutballs on universities.
These ideas are toxic to liberal democracy. The elevation of the supremacy of race as the single most important thing about a person represents a huge leap backwards.
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Post by Village Idiot on Oct 27, 2020 20:47:45 GMT -5
The Braille on the right says training room #2.
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Post by aquaduct on Oct 27, 2020 20:49:13 GMT -5
The Braille on the right says training room #2. You didn't expect it to say Training Room #1, did you?
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Post by majorminor on Oct 27, 2020 21:58:05 GMT -5
My dog won’t hunt either.
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